Hello all, 

As I am still quite ignorant of Traditional vs Novus Ordo and I am wondering what differences there are between the Baltimore Catechism and the CCC of 1992. Due to the 1992 one being Novus Ordo, do Traditionalists (including SSPX) disregard it? 

I would recommend instead, the Catechism of the Council of Trent.  The English version, translated in the early 20th Century, is widely available in print format and can be downloaded from multiple sources on the internet as it is in the public domain.  Another good catechism is The Catechism Explained by Spirago-Clarke which is generally available in the used book market (I think TAN, which published a reprint of the original, ceased publishing it when TAN was bought out by Conciliarists).

The "CCC" contains a variety of heresies and is writting in a way to really defy understanding.  Traditional Catholic avoid it like the plague.  Conciliarists love it since it doesn't really teach anything Catholic.

I'm no expert on Catechisms, Exleftist, but the CCC was published to implement the "teachings" of the Second Vatican Council and the Baltimore Catechism is a publication of the American Bishops. I first became suspicious of CCC having heard a talk on evolution and decided to check it out. Nothing there, in our day when it is such a crucial issue.

So I think it would be safer to go to the Catechism of Pope Pius X or the Catechism of the Council of Trent. 

May your knowledge and love of our precious faith increase day by day.

Hello all,

As I am still quite ignorant of Traditional vs Novus Ordo and I am wondering what differences there are between the Baltimore Catechism and the CCC of 1992. Due to the 1992 one being Novus Ordo, do Traditionalists (including SSPX) disregard it?

This is a problem for traditional Catholics, one of the reasons why the faith has been lost. Up to Vatican II every child leaving primary school at 12 years old was an amateur theologian, thanks to what we called 'The Penny Catechism.' Here in Ireland perhaps the last of them was published in 1951, one Bumphrey recommends. A CATECHISM OF CATHOLIC DOCTRINE, approved by the Archbishops and Bishops of Ireland 1951, a small booklet of 100 pages with holy drawings every few pages.

It consists of 375 Q&A, beginning with all the Prayers, The Sign of the Cross, The Lord's Prayer, The Hail Mary etc. Grace before meals, mysteries of the rosary. Then comes Q&A on the Creed, beginning with the famous WHO MADE THE WORLD, A. God made the world. 2. Who is God A. God is our Father in heaven, the creator and Lord of all things.
After the Creed are the Commandments of the Church. The last section covers Prayer and the sacraments. First Question What is necessary to enable us to keep the commandments? A To keep the commandments we need the  grace of God which is obtained chiefly by prayer and the sacraments. 

As kids in the 50s we learned all by heart. At confirmation the bishop would go along the pews and ask each one of us one question from the catechism to see if we were ready for confirmation. We were all terrified we would get one we forgot. But he was understanding and asked the easy ones.

My wife took up the task in the late 90s of keeping it available by having our Irish 1951 catechism reprinted. She has sent thousands out to parents and grand-parents who want a Q&A catechism for their children and grand-children. Once she covers costs and postage she can continue the good work.

I think I can be contacted by clicking on Cassini Exleftist if you wish to get a copy. 

Would this be it? https://lxoa.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/maynoothcatechism.pdf

Yes exleftist, brand new printed versions of same catechism.

Probably the main difference between the Baltimore Catechism and the Catechism of the Catholic Church is that the Baltimore Catechism was designed for the instruction of children (there are four levels - number 1 is the simplest and number 4 is the most complex) whereas the Catechism of the Catholic Church wasn't. The Catechism of the Catholic Church is, I understand it, similar to the Roman Catechism/Catechism of the Council of Trent (neither of them are in question-and-answer format).

You evidently have very little understanding of Catholicism if this is what you think.  The Catechism of the Council of Trent, while not in a question/answer format is easy to read and understand and teaches the Catholic Faith.  The Modernist Catechism of the Catholic Church is not easy to read, understand, and teaches heresy.

This is a problem for traditional Catholics, one of the reasons why the faith has been lost. Up to Vatican II every child leaving primary school at 12 years old was an amateur theologian, thanks to what we called 'The Penny Catechism.' Here in Ireland perhaps the last of them was published in 1951, one Bumphrey recommends. A CATECHISM OF CATHOLIC DOCTRINE, approved by the Archbishops and Bishops of Ireland 1951, a small booklet of 100 pages with holy drawings every few pages.

It consists of 375 Q&A, beginning with all the Prayers, The Sign of the Cross, The Lord's Prayer, The Hail Mary etc. Grace before meals, mysteries of the rosary. Then comes Q&A on the Creed, beginning with the famous WHO MADE THE WORLD, A. God made the world. 2. Who is God A. God is our Father in heaven, the creator and Lord of all things.
After the Creed are the Commandments of the Church. The last section covers Prayer and the sacraments. First Question What is necessary to enable us to keep the commandments? A To keep the commandments we need the  grace of God which is obtained chiefly by prayer and the sacraments.

As kids in the 50s we learned all by heart. At confirmation the bishop would go along the pews and ask each one of us one question from the catechism to see if we were ready for confirmation. We were all terrified we would get one we forgot. But he was understanding and asked the easy ones.

My wife took up the task in the late 90s of keeping it available by having our Irish 1951 catechism reprinted. She has sent thousands out to parents and grand-parents who want a Q&A catechism for their children and grand-children. Once she covers costs and postage she can continue the good work.

I think I can be contacted by clicking on Cassini Exleftist if you wish to get a copy.

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Wow! That is a great project your wife has undertaken, cassini. Congratulations!
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The Penny Catechism was commonplace long ago. I've heard many stories from my parent's generation recalling fond memories of that fine book. Your making it available is a great service.
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