What is the general opinion of him? The reason I ask is I just read a piece where they call him a 'pro-life hero'. I can't say I'm a fan of his but I try to an idea of the mindset of those who regard him as a 'pro-life hero'. I find many people who should know better, who are getting 'neo conned'. He is has been to ѕуηαgσgυєs and is pro-Jєωιѕн. Are people going to grasp the full picture or as long as you are 'pro-life' you are a hero. I just don't get why people here in Ireland regard him as a 'hero'. Are these people ever going to get to the root of the problem or do they want to?

A man I know showed others articles that were critical of Karol Wojtyła and they took grave exception to it. They just didn't want to know. He probably took a wrong approach with them but still. We need to pray for these people that they may see the bigger picture.

*Karol Wojtyla/JPII

These pro-lifers need to inform themselves better as they will lead others into error. These prelates are Modernists. They do annoy me. One group would be happy to pose in a photograph with likes of Cardinal Pell but would run a mile if asked to be photographed with likes of Bishop Williamson. Pell is another 'pro-life hero'.

Whilst on topic of Medjugorje, the new evangelisation newspaper 'Alive' has a section on "What God Means to me?. Medjugorje is often a place mentioned by the columnists. In Ireland, you would fill a conference hall if you had a talk on seers, Visionaries, etc etc. It would be a struggle to fill a room if a doctrinal conference was organised. When the relics of St Therese were here several years ago, churches and cathedrals were packed. There is piety and spirituality here but dogma and doctrine and social Catholicism is weak. Baptisms, weddings, funerals are not taken seriously.

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What is the general opinion of him? The reason I ask is I just read a piece where they call him a 'pro-life hero'. I can't say I'm a fan of his but I try to an idea of the mindset of those who regard him as a 'pro-life hero'.

I think he mentioned something positive about "life" once in a sermon.  Other than that, I have no idea why anyone would use his name, "pro-life", and "hero" in the same book, let alone sentence.

I stand corrected. They said "Pro-life leader" and not 'hero'. I gathered there was nothing special about him so wondered why he was a 'pro-life leader' all of a sudden.Nothing personal against YD but I don't share their enthusiasm for him.

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Even if he were a "pro-life hero", his modernism outweighs this fact. A bishop's job is to preach, defend and pass on the Holy Catholic Faith unaltered. Bishop Dolan is a typical "conservative" American bishop. In other words: someone who St Pius X would have considered a modernist.

Traditionalists shouldn't fall into the Neo-Catholic trap of associating a bishop's pro-life outspokeness to his doctinal orthodoxy; as if that is the bishop's primary job. Neither should we give ascent to the false dichotomy of "Culture of Life vs Culture of Death." There is the Kingdom of God vs the Kingdom of Satan. Namely; the Holy Catholic Faith vs everything and everyone else.

I agree. There is little on no reference to the social Kingship of Christ. One is talking to the wall most of the time in relation to these 'pro-lifers'. There is one university pro-life group in Ireland who are 'secular pro-lifers'. Those involved are Catholic yet link to a ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ pro-life group. It's liberalism.

This is one of the worst things I ever read. She is probably 'cool'.  As long as you are pro-life. This 'pro-life movement' is misleading. It has to be Catholic.

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i don't care if you're gαy, straight, atheist, religious, liberal, conservative... if you're truly pro-life AND pro-woman, i'm on your side.

Before Thanksgiving 2010, then "Archbishop" Dolan had this to say on Fox News:
"We're grateful to God. We're conscious that somebody, some call it Him or Her or whatever you want... :shocked: somebody beyond us is in charge and we are immensely grateful."

Dolan is another typical neo-Cath who the Novus Ordo community loves. Given all of the things he has done and claims to believe in, from being pro-gαy to saying women can be Cardinals, it would be devastating if he were elected during the next Papal conclave.

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What is the general opinion of him? The reason I ask is I just read a piece where they call him a 'pro-life hero'. I can't say I'm a fan of his but I try to an idea of the mindset of those who regard him as a 'pro-life hero'. I find many people who should know better, who are getting 'neo conned'. He is has been to ѕуηαgσgυєs and is pro-Jєωιѕн. Are people going to grasp the full picture or as long as you are 'pro-life' you are a hero. I just don't get why people here in Ireland regard him as a 'hero'. Are these people ever going to get to the root of the problem or do they want to?

A man I know showed others articles that were critical of Karol Wojtyła and they took grave exception to it. They just didn't want to know. He probably took a wrong approach with them but still. We need to pray for these people that they may see the bigger picture.

*Karol Wojtyla/JPII

These pro-lifers need to inform themselves better as they will lead others into error. These prelates are Modernists. They do annoy me. One group would be happy to pose in a photograph with likes of Cardinal Pell but would run a mile if asked to be photographed with likes of Bishop Williamson. Pell is another 'pro-life hero'.

Pell is hardly a pro-life hero or pro-life leader. I used to be involved in a local pro-life group who invited him on numerous occassions to appear at their abortion clinic vigils and support their causes though he has avoided any such thing. Pell only made a name for himself a few years back by refusing to give "communion" to ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs wearing the rainbow sash. Since then he has showed himself to be a weak and "don't rock the boat" type character. I know of people who have gone to him complaining about a particular "priest" in his diocese who regularly says "gαy masses" and Pells answer was something along the lines of "I don't care as long as it stays only in one area". In other words, let them have their "gαy mass" as long as it is contained and does not spread too much.

These days people have this idea that all it takes to be a good Catholic is to be "pro-life".
Although the pro-life movement does a lot of good work, what people fail to realise is that they are putting all this effort into a cause which is simply a side effect of a far greater problem. You can try and stop abortions as much as you like but where the real problem is and where people should focus on is the conversion of souls the true faith. Is is like putting a bandaid on a hole in the head. Please don't get me wrong. I am not saying we should not try and stop abortion.