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Offline CathMomof7

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Can you tell me more about the Mystic Marthe Robin?
« on: February 15, 2015, 03:43:23 PM »
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  • I am really in need of some help.

    I homeschool my children and currently we use Seton Home School.

    I do not wish to debate the use of this material.  It is a choice we made for various reasons.

    However, I know that Seton is more "conservative" Novus Ordo and not truly traditional, so I have to go through all of my children's text books to see if there are any lessons on Divine Mercy or Sister Faustina or the Luminous Mysteries---that sort of thing.

    Just recently, when I was going over some 8th grade reading assignments, I discovered a lesson on the stigmatist, Marthe Robin.  Since I had  never heard of her, and I discovered she died in 1981, I became curious and was a little hesitant to have my son read this lesson.

    I haven't been able to find much about her.  I did see mention on this forum in another discussion that she may have been a false mystic.

    I would appreciate any information you have.



    Offline Nadir

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    Can you tell me more about the Mystic Marthe Robin?
    « Reply #1 on: February 15, 2015, 07:02:40 PM »
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  • This might throw some light!

    http://garabandalnews.overblog.com/-the-french-padre-pio-marthe-robin-and-garabandal

    "The French Padre Pio" (Marthe Robin) and Garabandal
    6 Avril 2013
    The sixth child of a family of simple farmers of the Drome (France), Marthe, Servant of God (1991), was twenty-three years old when she wrote, in her own handwriting, her complete Consecration as a “victim of Love” . . . Today, her name, like those of Blessed Padre Pio and Blessed Madre Maravillas, shine in the firmament of the Church of God.

    At the origin of the Foundation of the Homes of Charity, Marthe was chosen by the Lord to live His Passion “the most completely after My Mother,” He revealed to her in 1933 . . . He even added, “no one in the Church will ever have lived IT as completely as you will!”

    Paralyzed since the age of twenty-seven, and also stigmatized, Marthe Robin would spend some fifty years of her life without sleep or food, nourishing herself uniquely with the Eucharistic Bread.


    When Fr. Laffineur, O.P. died in November 1970, he had left behind him his plan for the diffusion of the Message of Garabandal in a difficult situation. His close collaborator Fr. Combe decided to ask Marthe, whom he knew well, for her advice. The famous woman mystic welcomed him in the first months of 1971, in her house of La Plaine . . . Here is the account of her meeting as reported by Fr. Combe himself:

    “. . . Myself: “Dear Sister Marthe, as you know, I care about Garabandal . . .”
    Marthe: “Yes, Father . . .”
    Myself: “I was helping Fr. Laffineur . . . He died last November. And all that has followed . . .”
    Marthe: “Yes, the critics . . .”
    Myself: “I see that you know. So I come to ask for your advice. To me, the situation appears to be so difficult that from now on I would like to take care of only my parish of Chazay d’Azergues. I have already enough work in this ministry . . .”
    Marthe: (in a firm and almost cutting voice): “That’s it, Father . . . You want to let everything go! . . .”
    Myself (I received the blow right through the heart and waited for the rest . . .)
    Marthe: “Aye! What must we do, Father, when we have received graces?”


    Myself: “I understand, Sister Marthe . . . I must then take up again the spreading of the Message of Garabandal? But, by doing so, I will receive blows from all sides, from the ‘critics,’ from the priests, the vicar-generals, and even blows from the shepherd’s crook of Bishops . . .”
    Marthe: “Ah well! You will offer them to God. There, father, give me some news of the “children” of Garabandal . . .”
    This I did. Marthe listened, sometimes asking for details . . . Finally:
    Marthe: “Tell the four girls that I pray for them every day!”
    The limited time allotted to me for our interview was drawing to an end. Then Marthe asked me: “Would you like us to say an Our Father and a Hail Mary together?” – “Yes, Marthe. For the girls of Garabandal and their Bishop, for yourself and for the Houses of Charity and also for the blows dealt to us with a stick! . . .”


    After our prayer, I said: “Marthe, would you accept to have my Guardian Angel invite yours every day to take part in my Mass!” – “Oh! Yes, Father; they will pray together.” And our conversation ended as usual with my blessing given with deep emotion.
    My heart was freed and determined; I came down from Marthe’s room to the chapel of the Home of Charity. On my knees before the Lord Jesus, I gave thanks for the light received. Then, turning to the Blessed Virgin, I said to her: “Most Blessed Virgin, I understand very well . . . You want this . . . I will therefore take up again my pilgrim’s staff . . . I am ready to walk for you to the end of the world” . . .
    Later, I saw Marthe Robin again. Every time, we spoke of Garabandal. She was interested in making known the Message; she loved to receive news from me about the four children, about their families and . . . especially about the Bishop of Santander . . .

    Another of Marthe Robin’s testimonies on Garabandal is the one she gave to Msgr. J. Bretault (Founder and first Bishop of the Diocese of Koudougou). One day, I took him to Chateauneuf-de-Galaure, which he liked so much. Before dropping him off, I asked him to remember me to Marthe and to ask her for a little word for me. The little word was a long report he wrote out immediately with tears of joy before the Blessed Sacrament . . . Msgr. J. Bretault had been overwhelmed by all the information Marthe knew about the difficulties in spreading the news about Garabandal in France after the death of Fr. Laffineur. She asked him to transmit a few details and some advice . . . that were very useful and effective for me.”
    [From 'Garabandal' Book, pages 228-229]

    Another great Saint involved with Garabandal, Marthe Robin’s cause for beatification was introduced in Rome in 1984.
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.


    Offline Ladislaus

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    Can you tell me more about the Mystic Marthe Robin?
    « Reply #2 on: February 15, 2015, 08:14:39 PM »
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  • I don't know whether this reflects directly on Marthe, since the Garabandal crowd was known to fabricate testimonies in support of it such as the alleged approbation of Padre Pio.

    But the following definitely rubs me the wrong way:

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    At the origin of the Foundation of the Homes of Charity, Marthe was chosen by the Lord to live His Passion “the most completely after My Mother,” He revealed to her in 1933 . . . He even added, “no one in the Church will ever have lived IT as completely as you will!”


    Reminds me of the stuff surrounding Sister Faustina.

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    Can you tell me more about the Mystic Marthe Robin?
    « Reply #3 on: February 15, 2015, 09:21:25 PM »
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  • Care to explain why you believe the evidence for Padre Pio's belief in Garabandal has been "fabricated"?
    "There's a mix of passion and shortsightedness in me, even when I'm positive that I'm doing my very best to see things for what they are, that warns me that I'll never know for sure. Undoubtedly I must follow the truth I can see, I have no choice and I must live on; but that is for me only, not to impose on others." - Fr. Leonardo Castellani

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    Can you tell me more about the Mystic Marthe Robin?
    « Reply #4 on: February 16, 2015, 04:39:59 PM »
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    He even added, “no one in the Church will ever have lived IT as completely as you will!”


    This is certainly a red flag for me.  Would Jesus really appeal to someone's ego this way?

    Marsha


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    Can you tell me more about the Mystic Marthe Robin?
    « Reply #5 on: February 17, 2015, 03:12:40 PM »
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  • Quote from: reconquest
    Care to explain why you believe the evidence for Padre Pio's belief in Garabandal has been "fabricated"?


    Because the one or two alleged accounts that Padre Pio was favorable to Garabandal are contradicted by the priest who for a number of years served as Padre Pio's English translator,  Father Ermelindo di Capua.  Some regarded him as Padre Pio's closest friend during his last years.  He said that Padre Pio disapproved of the apparitions and had grave concerns regarding one of the seers in particular.

    In addition, there are several failed prophecies from Garabandal which disprove the apparitions, so I would prefer to think that Padre Pio had not been deceived.