Author Topic: Can women work out (Read 5186 times)

claudel · « **Reply #45 on:** September 26, 2013, 04:13:34 PM »

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… I don't believe that there is anything wrong with cultivating one's talents or pursuing one's interests purely for their own sake, in thanksgiving to God Who bestowed them. …

Quote from: Matto

I don't see anything wrong with working out for health reasons, as long as modesty is maintained. …

Hurrah! The first two truly sensible comments on this nutty thread.

Boloki · « **Reply #46 on:** September 26, 2013, 04:30:52 PM »

Quote from: Stephen Francis

Boloki,

Yes, you're absolutely right; I have tunnel-vision. I'm far too concerned with sanctifying every area of my life, a life that was defined for more than 95% of my time on Earth by wanton sin and selfishness.

No don't try to turn this around now.

You are saying that ANYTHING done without a spiritual end in mind is at BEST idle, at worst sin.

So, I asked you, are sports bad? No answer.

I posted pictures of sspx seminarians playing sports. Do you want me to show them to you again? Did they all did it for a 100% spiritual end?

I also asked you, if you ever dare to workout or play sports, what is the spiritual end you have to have in mind?

but I believe I have learned spiritual things by playing tennis anyways.

After playing a grueling match until I cant anymore, I usually feel extremely thirsty and hungry, and miserable with all the sweat around and all sticky. Then I think about Hell and about how miserable it must be. So I have gotten spiritual lessons even from playing tennis.

Quote from: Stephen Francis

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If someone dares to exercise to be fit, or strong, without any spiritual end in mind, is that a sin you say?

ANYTHING that is done without a spiritual end in mind is at BEST idle, at worst sin.

Show me a teaching of the Church that says otherwise. Our Lord Jesus Christ instructs us to guard against even unnecessary idle speech. How much more should our daily work/recreation schedules be guarded against idle/careless/POINTLESS efforts?

Yes, but like I said, where do sports figure in there?

I have told you from the start whether it is allowable or not. You say you have to have a spiritual end.

Tiffany · « **Reply #47 on:** September 26, 2013, 04:33:26 PM »

Generally speaking women over 35 and men over 50 will gain weight living in a city unless they do some form of routine exercise.

Boloki · « **Reply #48 on:** September 26, 2013, 11:49:37 PM »

On second thought, i have been wondering whether working out can be offered as legitimate penance.

Everyone who has done real exercise knows it takes a lot of discipline, determination and will power, and even someone like myself, who has always been "athletic" and active, many times i feel like not exercising at all. I feel i would much rather not exercise and do something else because it takes time and discipline.

Exercising involves some pain almost everytime, and in some cases a lot of pain and suffering.

Just go ahead and try to do Tabata sprints, or just any type of interval training; you feel like you're gonna faint and it's really hard.

Lazy people can dismiss exercising all they want; they don't have what it takes and i would like to see them try it out. They would probably die.

It's much easier to go and comfortably read a book on a couch or relax or to go plant your butt on a chair and be in the computer than it is to go out and do some intense cardio, or lift some heavy weights.

Lately i have been feeling like i don't want to exercise, because it really is a chore, even though i feel a little sense of accomplishment later.

Just imagine a father of a family who can't even lift heavy water tanks or grocery bags, or can't even lift his wife and children, or move heavy things around, or change a tire, or move furniture around etc.

What about the crusaders and the knights? Were they all weaklings? What about the Vatican Guards?

Stephen Francis · « **Reply #49 on:** September 27, 2013, 07:54:16 AM »

Yeah, just imagine that.

I've got a cardiac arrhythmia and four abdominal hernias.

No moving furniture or carrying my wife for me.

Yes, exercise is meant to be a form of penance. It's an idea that's at the heart of the rule of St. Benedict, among other places. Offering to God even the most mundane activities of our day.

No one can judge the clergy you posted pictures of who were playing sports. Father McGivney, the founder of the Knights of Columbus, was an avid baseball player. So what?

All I said was that our interior disposition is critical to whether our works will survive the Judgment, no matter what works they are.

Those who lazily leave off from prayer and meditation upon the mysteries of the Faith so they can "get a good workout in" are fools.

Those who offer to God their conduct, attitude and even the aches and pains will by no means find their labors to be unfruitful.

Jerry · « **Reply #50 on:** September 27, 2013, 08:50:22 AM »

She should be encouraged to exercise. Scripture itself says that exercise is beneficial, and does not specify gender. It then goes on to say that devotional acts are of greater benefit.

Exercise helps us think better, improve health and assists us in fulfilling our duty of state.

As long as she does not engage in male dominated sports or dress immodestly there is absolutely no reason to discourage her. In fact it will make her a better mother.

Boloki · « **Reply #51 on:** September 27, 2013, 02:15:40 PM »

Quote from: Stephen Francis

Yeah, just imagine that.

I've got a cardiac arrhythmia and four abdominal hernias.

No moving furniture or carrying my wife for me.

What i said of course doesn't apply to people who can't exercise, that's obvious.

How did you get all that?

reconquest · « **Reply #52 on:** September 27, 2013, 05:40:21 PM »

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It is a matter of great importance that the most serious disturbances in reproduction and childbirth are occurring in the most civilized parts of the world. In Chapter 19 I have referred to the important work of Dr. Kathleen Vaughan entitled "Safe Childbirth." She has not only had wide experience among several tribes in India and in the British Hospitals but has collected a large quantity of information regarding the experience of many races throughout the world. Her data strongly emphasize the necessity that the growing girl shall be allowed to have an active outdoor life not only until the completion of the building of her body at about fourteen years of age, but through the child-bearing period. In practically all countries a restricted sedentary indoor life greatly increases the complications associated with childbirth.

Weston A. Price, Nutrition and Physical Degeneration.

Mama ChaCha · « **Reply #53 on:** September 28, 2013, 03:40:25 AM »

Quote from: Stephen Francis

Why aren't more people "ganging up" on what I said?

Because if you think Pope St. Pius X was a vait-lifftuh like Ahhnold, and he was using exercise as a benefit to his body and not as a part of his overall SPIRITUAL dedication, you're sadly mistaken.

Re-read very carefully what I said in my other post.

Exercise that is DIVORCED FROM, that is, SEPARATE FROM, INDEPENDENT OF, NOT CONNECTED TO spiritual exercise/discipline, is vain and useless.

What BETTER TIME is there to pray the Holy Rosary then while walking? Using a treadmill? Doing bicep curls?

Why would anyone have a problem with what I said, when all I said was a rehash of the words of St. Paul?

Quote from: The First Epistle of St. Paul the Apostle to St. Timothy
1 Timothy 4:8
For bodily exercise is profitable to little: but godliness is profitable to all things, having promise of the life that now is, and of that which is to come.

Quote from: The First Epistle of St. Paul to the Corinthians, Chapter 9
[27] But I chastise my body, and bring it into subjection: lest perhaps, when I have preached to others, I myself should become a castaway.

Exercise is good; exercise in holiness is better. Fitness is good; mortification is better.

St. John Vianney, St. Francis of Assisi and thousands of others weren't skinny because they used South Beach. Yes, they lived in more agrarian/agricultural societies, but there were fat people back then, too. Gluttony was a sin before the time of Our Lord.

Stop forcing a dichotomy between "secular" pursuits and spiritual ones.

Quote from: The First Epistle of St. Paul to the Corinthians, Chapter 10
27 Therefore, whether you eat, or drink, or whatever you do, do all for the glory of God.

St. John Vianney, pray for us.

St. Teresa of Avila, pray for us.

Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon!

Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

Thank you for answering my question!! :smile: