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Offline Belloc

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« on: December 04, 2009, 09:19:07 AM »
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    • Guess he is rather clear: Poor=not in covenant

    Here is the site:   http://www.entrewave.com/freebooks/docs/21f6_47e.htm

    "Until Ray Sutton cracked the code of the Bible's covenant structure in late 1985, no one had gone into print with a clear, Biblically verifiable model of the covenant - or if anyone did, no trace of his work has survived. Covenant theologians have never adopted it."

    Comment-this is rather Gnostic, it tood 1985 yrs to "crack a code"? Also, what is prosperity-making a buck or prospering towar righteousness and salvation? seeing another link between тαℓмυdism and its black op that became calvinsim
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    « Reply #1 on: December 04, 2009, 11:00:36 AM »
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    • Isn´t Calvinism that thing which goes on about God´s elect? i.e. chosen people. Of course, it is the same as "Judaism"/Zionism.
    Christ came to the Earth to prove that all people were saved. Not just a chosen few. He founded the Church on Earth. The Jєωs rejected Christ´s Church and so did Calvin. Even Calvin´s Chosen People were divided up into the Saved and the Damned. The Saved are rich and prosperous and the Damned are poor. What a horror! What sort of God would send his Son to redeem the World and then damn the unborn to Hell?!!! Madness! and Evil!
    And the Calvinist colonies were run in the same way. Geneva (purged of the "Papist intolerance"- a prison of Orthodoxy where those who refused to tow the line where burnt), Northern Ireland, the Wasp American colonies, South Africa - the New Zions of hate and misery!

    Am I right? Wasn´t that Calvin´s Earthly Zion?
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    « Reply #2 on: December 04, 2009, 11:10:06 AM »
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    • Yes the real motivation is that Puritans thought the Indans were lost Tribes, so-convert them and bring the earthly paradise...those today their spiritual descendants claim they came to USA to establish a Christian Godly commonwealth...

    There are a lot evidence that Calvin was Jєωιѕн (french name is Cauvin, possibly a derivation of Cohen) and yes, strong infiltration of movement by тαℓмυdics...also, Cromwell in England ended ban on Jєωs and usury, many flocked then into Britain and this enlarged his treasury to crush the "papists" and Anglicans...
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    « Reply #3 on: December 04, 2009, 12:03:15 PM »
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    • Yep, the Puritans went to America to bring Calvinism, money commerce, the Common Cold and other deadly diseases to the Heathen :heretic:

    Jєω or no Jєω Calvin was a Catholic priest gone to the bad - like Luther and John Knox. Cromwell was another of those stupid heretics who thought he was dealing with Old Testament Jєωs who would be only too eager to convert to a religion cleansed of "Papism" and banging on about Covenants.
    Yeah, you are right the had a lot in common, didn´t they? Money,money money; profit, profit, profit.
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    « Reply #4 on: December 04, 2009, 12:07:18 PM »
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    • Calvin was not a priest that I know of.....anyone know if he was...


    But, good comments and insights Greenhill, as always...
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    « Reply #5 on: December 04, 2009, 12:20:53 PM »
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    • No, you are right. He wasn´t a priest. He was a lawyer. But he was a Catholic. His heresy as, with so many other´s, was the result of a personal grievance against his local Church authorities.

    I looked into the argument as to whether he was a Jєω. It seems not. His name came, apparently, from calvus - latin for "bald-headed" (The German word "kahl" (bald) comes from "calvus").
    Anyway, his family was very devout Catholic.
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    « Reply #6 on: December 04, 2009, 12:48:42 PM »
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    • Interesting on the name thing....

    there is an article out there that notes he was possibly resisting the bishop due to a moral issue, that of sodomy...brought this up to my padre, he beleives this too, article was written by a priest some yrs ago:

    www.manicfish.com/myblog.php?story_id=2108&option

    sadly, Dave Armstrong-a NO Catholic, defends the Protestants and says it is "riduclous"....I am all for truth, but he really goes out of his way to defend all things Post V2.....one of those "you are a schismatic for questioning the Pope" types..regularly slams "traditionalists" in rather childish tones.....
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    « Reply #7 on: December 04, 2009, 01:02:22 PM »
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    • I read that his father had some trouble with the local church and was denied the last rites. And son got mad .

    It is absolutely idiotic to suggest that someone criticising the Pope is schismatic. The Pope is only infallible when teaches "ex-cathedra" ( I think I am right here) Criticising the Pope doesn´t make you a heretic. Altering the fundamentals of the Faith and trying to mislead others does (I feel!). That´s why I think Novus and sedes are bad Catholics. Not non-Catholics!
    Remember Cardinal Newman´s toast at dinner "My conscience first and the Pope second" I told my priest that and he said "Quite right!". I think Newman was far from being a schismatic!
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    « Reply #8 on: December 05, 2009, 06:25:43 PM »
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    • I agree with your sentiments, Greenhill.
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