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« Reply #90 on: October 26, 2011, 10:12:59 AM »
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    Tele, not only you're wrong, but your choice of words has made you even MORE wrong.

    Spiritus doesn't attend SSPX Masses. Seriously, there is no SSPX chapel near where he lives.


    Did I claim he did?  Did he ever attend them?  His mentality is all too common.

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    « Reply #91 on: October 26, 2011, 10:18:17 AM »
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    He is a canon lawyer, and used to work in a marriage tribunal in the conciliar Church


    What a great recommendation.  I can say this: I wouldn't want any of you people sitting on a jury.  

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    before he came to tradition. I would say he is above SSPX politics.


    Matthew, this thread is really a form of axe-grinding against me.  The SSPX has some pretty serious flaws, but certain types don't want to hear it.  And why do they react the way they do?  Because they are inculcated with the mentality of the SSPX.  



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    « Reply #92 on: October 26, 2011, 10:25:02 AM »
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  • Another thing: Raoul is a fantasist and someone who is not to be trusted.  

    He cannot separate his own over-active imagination from his "observations."

    He is not really an analytical thinker either.  


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    « Reply #93 on: October 26, 2011, 11:16:58 AM »
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    The SSPX has some pretty serious flaws, but certain types don't want to hear it.  And why do they react the way they do?  Because they are inculcated with the mentality of the SSPX.  


    The first sentence is definately true. But if you take the way people 'react the way they do' on this site to many of your claims, its not what you say, but how many times you say it.

    If I said to my sister, "Our mom is a good mom." I'm sure she'd agree.

    If I told her, over and over and over again, one thousand times every chance I had, she would probably say, "Shut Up!"

    Does this mean she doesn't think our mom is good? No. She's responding to my approach telling her about our mom.

    You're not wrong on most of your commentary of the Society; but the constant relentless attacks on them gives an impression of hate and revenge, whether its true or not. It needs to stop, or no one will hear you but keep saying, "Shut Up!"

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    « Reply #94 on: October 26, 2011, 11:52:26 AM »
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  • It's hard to avoid repeating oneself when arguing with people who stonewall.


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    « Reply #95 on: October 26, 2011, 11:57:46 AM »
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  • Yes, but its worth trying.

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    « Reply #96 on: October 26, 2011, 01:58:57 PM »
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    SS is very childish.  Whether it's the chiming in on every opportunity, his obsession with reputation points, in inability to carry on even a rudimentary argument, and his gratuitous slanders and phony apologies, the guy is sadly on the same mental level as other simple-minded people who end up spreading nasty gossip.


    You don't think it's childish to thumb down all of my posts? And I don't obsess over reputation points, my reputation on a forum pales in comparision to my reputation with God.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #97 on: October 26, 2011, 02:15:31 PM »
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    In fact, several years ago, an FSSP priest refused to baptize one of our daughters because the God parents attended our SSPX chapel back home.  He claimed that our marriage was invalid as well.  It took all of my energy to restrain myself from grabbing him by the vestments and taking him outside.


    Some FSSP priests are like that, unfortunetly. Although, I know that there are also some FSSP priets who like Archbishop LeFebvre and the Society.
    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.


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    « Reply #98 on: October 26, 2011, 02:43:54 PM »
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  • I think I'm going to name SS the "irrelevant thread buzzard"

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    « Reply #99 on: October 26, 2011, 02:57:04 PM »
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  • Rich, don't encourage him.  Saying that there are imperfect priests in the Society and the Bishop Fellay has possibly been imprudent is some circuмstances is a far cry from what Telesphorus' campaign of hatred has asserted.  There have been imperfect priests in all religious orders, there have been imprudent judgments made by superiors as long as the Church has been in existence.  Have you noticed that he has evaded my point about taking his assertions to their logical conclusions viz. the Catholic Church itself?  He knows full well where they lead, but he refuses to answer because it necessarily negates his willful evil.  He has made it clear that he will not relent in his assassination attempt on the Society, that it is a personal vendetta.  He will calumniate and evade; he will stonewall and distort until he runs out of emotion or comes to his senses.  Until then, there is simply no rational discussion possible.    

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    « Reply #100 on: October 26, 2011, 03:07:20 PM »
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  • The apostasy in the SSPX, led by the clique of the "double-tongued" - the changes in the SSPX that resemble what was occurring in the 60s. (as mentioned in the Eleison comments)  I'm not the only one whose noticing what's happening.  It's pretty serious.  It isn't a matter of imperfections.  People for whom belonging to the SSPX is more important than being Catholic don't want to hear about it.

    Quote from: Bishop Fellay
    1 To an Argentinian priest from the Novus Ordo who asks for your advice, you recommend that he should not join the SSPX.

    2 To an American layman you write that the apostasy of the mainstream Church is farther advanced than that of the SSPX. How can you write such things, false and unjust, against the Society of which you are still a member?

    3 There exists in Anglo-saxon circles a network of infiltrators of the SSPX preparing a break-away. You are put forward as the head of this movement, you are the friend of its leaders and you are playing their game.



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    « Reply #101 on: October 26, 2011, 03:39:31 PM »
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  • This is the remarkable truth about the abusive, slanderous mentality that infects the "double-tongued" clique:

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    I figured my time with Fr. Phluger would be rather limited so I immediately cut to the chase in inquiring about the status of Bp. Williamson. In the course of our talk, Fr. Phluger made some pointed derogatory statements about Bp. Williamson. These were topped off by his stunning assertion with respect to Bp. Williamson and this is verbatim: "He's a nαzι." As God is my witness that is exactly what this priest told me face to face.

    I made the above quote known to Bp. Williamson as well as the full details of my conversation with Fr. Phluger in an email to the former one day later on February 21, 2011. I still retain that email as well as the reply I received to it from Bp. Williamson on February 22, 2011. (I also informed my SSPX pastor of the conversation and the specific nαzι assertion in an email to him on February 23rd.)

    I am sorry to bring such a despicable affair to light at this time, but I think that those who are in a position to do so should hold Fr. Pfluger accountable for it. Don't shoot the messenger. In my opinion his aforesaid assertion to me was a grave calumny. Some may strongly disagree, but my conscience -- after much consideration -- informs me that my extraordinary step of making it public at this time is fully justified.

    The internal exile of Bp. Williamson should in my opinion never have been imposed. Furthermore, in my opinion its continuation is absolutely wrong and is (or at least should be!) an ongoing scandal to the faithful.



    http://mauricepinay.blogspot.com/2011/10/letter-from-bishop-fellay-to-bishop.html

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    « Reply #102 on: April 26, 2012, 12:41:00 AM »
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  • Unlike somebody like S2Rea, I don't think Matthew was trying to hurt you when he started this thread, at least not in a way that wasn't meant to help you.  If you had the wisdom to, I think you would accept it and be grateful for it.  As it is, I guess you don't.  Although, I haven't read most of the thread.  (I am not trying to insult you, I think we all need God's grace to get wisdom, I know I do).  So, I will pray that you get that too and perhaps my intercessory prayer will be of some help to you.  Although, there may be more powerful intercessors, which I could ask to join me in praying for you.  I wonder what saint would be a good choice for that???? (any help in that regard, from anyone, would be appreciated, except maybe S2Rea, since I don't like him anymore and I'm thinking about mentioning that in every single breath I take for the rest of my bitter, bitter life   :jester:)
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    « Reply #103 on: April 26, 2012, 12:51:13 AM »
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  • He really doesn't look like Ricardo Montalban in that get-up.

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    « Reply #104 on: April 26, 2012, 12:52:41 AM »
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    He really doesn't look like Ricardo Montalban in that get-up.


    I really like him in that role.  This tribute is pretty cool