I got tired after page 14. It’s interesting to note that in July of last year, “Telesphorus” was a great supporter of the SSPX and understood its position on the Pope and sedevacantism. Now, just over a year later, he has become not only a sedevacantist, not only does he merely disagree with the theological and ecclesiastical position of the SSPX, but a malicious calumniator of the SSPX. In just a years’ time, he went from being a supporter of the SSPX to its worst enemy, now claiming that has been able to divine, in that short period of time, all of its terrible defects, evils and inconsistencies. One wonders whether a single man who changes so drastically and erratically within a short time is correct or whether there is an ulterior motive at play. Given the drastic changes of this man within a short time, his credibility and powers of discernment are questionable at best. It is certainly odd given the constant claims of the “shifting” and “changing” that has allegedly taken place within the SSPX, the greatest traditionalist order of priests in the world today. Maybe if “Telesphorus” hasn’t been so self-contradictory and shifty himself, one may take him more seriously. As it stands, the agenda has been demonstrated.
Good day to all.
The SSPX, as far as the world in concerned, is represented by Bishop Fellay and his cabal. And they act in a cultish manner.
The problem with the SSPX is that it started to become all about the SSPX and stopped being about being Catholic.
It is true that the SSPX (as it is now) for most is mainly about belonging to the SSPX, not about believing the Catholic Faith.
Holy priests do their job as they are intended, but many priests are very vain and they use the confessional to gratify their pride. And the SSPX seems to have a serious problem with vain priests.
People who behave shamelessly, and are arrogant about it. Something often seen in the SSPX.
The problem is the SSPX itself demands blind obedience now. The SSPX leadership has become very manipulative and unprincipled.
You'd have to be a fool to send your son to an all boys SSPX school.
The SSPX is selling out, being liberalized - I'm not going to claim there's a direct connection between my situation and the behavior of the leaders of the SSPX - but there is a connection, and the connection is this - there is a lack of principle and moral decency among many of these priests - and they've formed a clique that's taken over the SSPX.
On the other hand, there is no doubt that some people are not only interested in fitting in in the world, but also in conforming to the SSPX's general attitude on these things, which is definitely changing - that is - they let the SSPX do their thinking for them on these issues.
What I've seen, is that for many people the SSPX is about their social position within it rather than about worship. It's often more about control rather than about shelter from the immoral modern world.
SSPX pottage should hardly be compared to manna - especially with all the judaic and conciliar seasonings being added as of late. Of course it still has plenty of the gall and bile of insufferable pride to keep people coming back for more self-abasement.
But when you're dealing with someone marinated in the dishonesty of LE and the apologetics of the SSPX, you're going to get garbage. Dishonesty. Pathological. And the intention to provoke, the sneering contempt, is there in Caminus. It's there in the SSPX. There's a kind of cult that exists in the SSPX, and the people absorbed by that cult are not well, not well at all.
When cults want to get rid of people - they do two things to defend themselves -
#1 - they tell lies about the person they want to get rid of
#2 - they try to brand the person they're getting rid of as being "mentally ill"
Let's recall that the SSPX was sued by a man in Post Falls and the jury awarded the man hundreds of thousands of dollars in damages - because the SSPX priest worked to sabotage his relationship with his wife - to label him a mental case, and to cause him to be ostracized.
This is standard behavior for cults - not for Christians.
Christians don't lie - they don't feel the need to taunt.
Right now it seems to me the SSPX is in the grip of such bullies in Bishop Fellay's clique - it does not surprise me that the mentality spreads from the top down.
The current organization of the SSPX, its leadership, and its current attitude towards the Jews, towards sedevacantism and certain cultish tendencies it exhibits bother me a lot.
The SSPX is going to be held accountable for what they do to people. I'm never going to stop letting people know about their betrayal of Catholics.
The SSPX has done me an injury - now they MUST make reparations for that, or they will never hear the end of my criticisms.
Precisely because of the unjust way those dishonest priests kicked me out, I will continue to do what I can to help people understand just where they are leading all those traditional Catholics. It's a responsibility.
They'll never hear the end of me until I'm convinced of their good faith.
They've made a grievous mistake.
It is not bizarre when you understand the new orientation of the SSPX, cultural drift, etc. If SSPX priests give Lenten dispensations for parties with underage drinking, if SSPX attending pro-life advocates speak of "authentic feminism" and praise the singer Taylor Swift, then what you are seeing is either a lack of understanding of traditionalism, or an attempt to fit in with the world among traditionalists.
No, I'm pointing out that the SSPX acts like a cult that tells parents to shun their own sons wedding at a sede chapel. It's absolutely depraved behavior.
Bishop Fellay's acknowledgement of our "elder brothers" proves he's not a trad but a cult leader.
You call me a "fool" because you're not a Christian but a member of a cult.
I have absolutely no fear of this toothless cult of fake Catholics.
Why is it that you can never have a good faith discussion with an SSPX advocate?
We had an SSPX priest practically give a sermon with almost the same point of view, talking about how younger people today are supposedly immature, practically incapable of marriage. It was one thing that really clued me into the rottenness that is taking over the SSPX.
If the SSPX leaders stop discussing the ʝʊdɛօ-masonic conspiracy and start to insult those who do talk about it, then the SSPX leaders have become hypocrites and turncoats who have given up any authentic attempt to defend the Faith.
Real Catholics teach what the Church teaches. False Catholics teach what is convenient for them, making things up as they go.
Some in the SSPX, apparently close to the leadership, have adopted the latter course. Which makes them the Pharisees of this time.
I've lost confidence in the integrity and honesty of the SSPX leadership
I think Jehanne pointed out a major lawsuit brought against the SSPX because of a priest who interfered with a man's marriage. the man was awarded hundreds of thousands of dollars by the jury. The judgment was overturned but he did win over the jury.
s2srea said:
Telesphorus said:
No, you certainly wouldn't. Listen, I'm a charitable man. You need to apologize. Catholics don't act the way you do.
Listen up you used piece of toilet paper- I'll apologize as soon as you take back the slander you threw against the SSPX as a general cult, Puerto Ricans, and when you shave your silly pro-gαy mustache- Trust me- I live near LA- and they'd eat you up in West Hollywood- especially with that attitude of yours!
Like I said, Catholics don't act the way you do. It is a fact that the SSPX in many ways acts like a cult. It's a fact that Puerto Ricans often have a twisted sense of honor. And it's a fact that you're a coward and a vicious slanderer.
s2srea said:
Telesphorus said:
You just accused me of being someone who would beat a woman like a dead horse.
Oh come on Tele- you're a big boy right... right? I meant it metaphorically. You see you just use big words to insult others here, so its okay right? But when someone simplifies it, you are suddenly the victim.
You're a filthy vicious slanderer, like the other cult bullies.
Your desperate apologetics for sadists at SSPX schools who drive girls to ѕυιcιdє is what is pathetic.
The SSPX is never going to hear the end of me until I am convinced they are reformed. They are in the grip of a clique of very bad priests right now, and I will never stop exposing them for their betrayal of Catholics.
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