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Offline forlorn

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Catholic view on the American healthcare crisis?
« on: June 20, 2019, 04:09:49 AM »
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  • Over the last number of years socialist policies have become very popular in the US as a "fix" to its healthcare woes, but it's also clear that the current system is not working either. Have any great Catholic thinkers written on what an ideal healthcare system in a country should look like?

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    Re: Catholic view on the American healthcare crisis?
    « Reply #1 on: June 20, 2019, 06:22:29 AM »
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  • σbαmαcare is not socialist — buying private insurance from a state market is very libertarian. 

    Now it's still bad legislation because tens of thousands of people do not have affordable healthcare, which is killing them. 

    People are also relying on crowdfunding when it comes to their medical care, which is a sign of a broken system. The ideal system in a Catholic country would probably be something that doesn't allow for crowdfunding to not drown in nine-figure medical debt. 

    And regulates the price of pharmaceuticals. Who are these executives rigging the price of things people need to not die into numbers befitting a yearly salary and not, again, pills people need to not die? This includes insulin.
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    Re: Catholic view on the American healthcare crisis?
    « Reply #2 on: June 20, 2019, 07:02:04 AM »
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  • Over the last number of years socialist policies have become very popular in the US as a "fix" to its healthcare woes, but it's also clear that the current system is not working either. Have any great Catholic thinkers written on what an ideal healthcare system in a country should look like?
    I don't think it takes a great Catholic thinker really, mainly because without the intervention of Holy Mother the Church,  insanely high prices for everything health related will be the rule.

    Back when the Church was the authority, She was respected even by crooks, and insurance, no matter who or what was insured, used to be only a fractional expense, and then was only to be relied upon in rare or unusual cases. People were almost glad to pay for and be insured while never having to use it at all, but that whole line of thinking has vanished from existence because the market is simply way too profitable for the doctors, hospitals, big pharma insurance companies and on and on.

    Figure out how to quell the greed, and prices would be affordable for pretty much everyone. Not gonna ever happen without Holy Mother the Church though.
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    Re: Catholic view on the American healthcare crisis?
    « Reply #3 on: June 20, 2019, 11:30:44 AM »
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  • σbαmαcare is not socialist — buying private insurance from a state market is very libertarian.

    Now it's still bad legislation because tens of thousands of people do not have affordable healthcare, which is killing them.

    People are also relying on crowdfunding when it comes to their medical care, which is a sign of a broken system. The ideal system in a Catholic country would probably be something that doesn't allow for crowdfunding to not drown in nine-figure medical debt.

    And regulates the price of pharmaceuticals. Who are these executives rigging the price of things people need to not die into numbers befitting a yearly salary and not, again, pills people need to not die? This includes insulin.
    I was referring to the calls for Single Payer Healthcare, not σbαmαcare. 

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    Re: Catholic view on the American healthcare crisis?
    « Reply #4 on: June 20, 2019, 11:32:06 AM »
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  • I don't think it takes a great Catholic thinker really, mainly because without the intervention of Holy Mother the Church,  insanely high prices for everything health related will be the rule.

    Back when the Church was the authority, She was respected even by crooks, and insurance, no matter who or what was insured, used to be only a fractional expense, and then was only to be relied upon in rare or unusual cases. People were almost glad to pay for and be insured while never having to use it at all, but that whole line of thinking has vanished from existence because the market is simply way too profitable for the doctors, hospitals, big pharma insurance companies and on and on.

    Figure out how to quell the greed, and prices would be affordable for pretty much everyone. Not gonna ever happen without Holy Mother the Church though.
    There are always those willing to ignore the Church and treat people like chattel. Namely the Jews.


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    Re: Catholic view on the American healthcare crisis?
    « Reply #5 on: June 20, 2019, 11:13:53 PM »
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  • Healthcare and insurance was affordable.  Catholics sisters and Catholic doctors used to work hospitals. 
    Nowadays doctors are greedy performing surgeries that aren’t needed and prescribing medicine to make profits while patients die from being over medicated.  And yes, those with zero insurance die.   Hospitals and insurance companies are corrupt and in it for profit. 
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    Re: Catholic view on the American healthcare crisis?
    « Reply #6 on: June 26, 2019, 06:33:07 PM »
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  • Awhile ago, I did some research on Catholic hospitals and what changed in American healthcare is the Rockefellers. The Rockellers helped pass  legislation that was meant to eliminate Catholic influence in American hospitals. Basically, the Rockefeller Foundation won against the Catholic Hospital Association. To be honest,  it probably wasn't too difficult for the Rockfellers to convince a bunch of Protestant politicians to pass legislation that targeted a Catholic institution. 


     

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