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Offline roscoe

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CAIN & ABEL
« on: December 16, 2017, 11:13:12 PM »
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    • Does anyone know if Cain & Abel were twins like Romulus & Remus or just brothers? :confused:
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    Re: CAIN & ABEL
    « Reply #1 on: December 16, 2017, 11:34:35 PM »
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    • Quote from: roscoe on December 16, 2017, 11:13:12 PM
    Does anyone know if Cain & Abel were twins like Romulus & Remus or just brothers? :confused:
    Yes
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    Re: CAIN & ABEL
    « Reply #2 on: December 17, 2017, 01:25:37 AM »
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    • Klasg4e says
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    YES.


    Yes they were twins?
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    Yes, they were just brothers, and not twins?
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    Yes, somebody knows:
    Adam and Eve know, and siblings know.
    And Cain and Abel know.

    I've never thought of it before. What difference would it make?
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    Re: CAIN & ABEL
    « Reply #3 on: December 17, 2017, 01:25:43 AM »
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    • They were not twins but they were brothers.
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    Re: CAIN & ABEL
    « Reply #4 on: December 17, 2017, 02:03:35 AM »
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    • Quote from: poche on December 17, 2017, 01:25:43 AM
    They were not twins but they were brothers.
    That's what I thought.  
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    Re: CAIN & ABEL
    « Reply #5 on: December 17, 2017, 08:14:01 AM »
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    • Quote from: Nadir on December 17, 2017, 01:25:37 AM
    Klasg4e says

    Yes they were twins?
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    Yes, they were just brothers, and not twins?
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    Yes, somebody knows:
    Adam and Eve know, and siblings know.
    And Cain and Abel know.

    I've never thought of it before. What difference would it make?
    Nor have I, and what difference would it make?
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    Re: CAIN & ABEL
    « Reply #6 on: December 17, 2017, 12:05:25 PM »
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    • I think Roscoe was just curious and speculating.
    True it doesn't make any difference but then MUCH of what is posted on CI falls into that category.

    Many years ago I heard or read that all Eve's children were twins, a boy and a girl.
    This made sense to me as it would be the fastest way of multiplying.
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    Re: CAIN & ABEL
    « Reply #7 on: December 17, 2017, 03:00:09 PM »
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    • I think Romulus & Remus were twins. Given the similarity between the 2 stories( Cain kills Abel & Romulus kills Remus) i was just wondering... :cheers:
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    Re: CAIN & ABEL
    « Reply #8 on: December 19, 2017, 01:56:47 AM »
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    • The Crowley acolyte Elvis Presley had a twin bother who was DOA. He may have murdered his bro in the womb. 

    BTW--there were only 5 prisoners in Bastille and one was De Sade...  

    Who killed Judge Scalia?
    Who killed Brett Cantor?
    Where is OJ?
    :popcorn:
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    Re: CAIN & ABEL
    « Reply #9 on: December 19, 2017, 12:08:35 PM »
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    Re: CAIN & ABEL
    « Reply #10 on: December 19, 2017, 11:04:01 PM »
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    • Quote from: poche on December 17, 2017, 01:25:43 AM
    They were not twins but they were brothers.

    I don't know if that's right... 

    "Their Births 

    It is a well-known fact that Jacob and Esau were twins, but what is not commonly known is that Cain and Abel were also twins. In the normal Hebraic accounting of multiple births the conception then birth of each child is mentioned such as we can see in Genesis 29:32-33 where it states that Leah conceived and bore a son, and then she conceived again and bore a son. Note that there are two conceptions and two births. But notice how it is worded in Genesis 4:1-2. 

    Now Adam knew Eve his wife, and she conceived and bore Cain; And again, she bore his brother Abel. (RSV)

    Notice that there is only one conception, but two births. The Hebrew word for "again" is asaph, meaning to add something, in this case the birthing of Abel was added to the birthing of Cain.  Cain and Abel were twins. "

    http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/articles_cainandabel.html
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    Re: CAIN & ABEL
    « Reply #11 on: December 19, 2017, 11:20:56 PM »
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    • The names Cain (qayin) and Abel (havel):    

    "The word קין (qayin, from the root QN) means to acquire or possess something which is why Eve (chavah in Hebrew) said "I have gotten/acquired (qanah, also from the root QN) a man" (Gen 4:1). The word הבל (havel) means to be empty, often translated as vain or vanity in the sense of being empty of substance. "   

    In Hebrew thought, ones name is reflective of one's character and the Hebraic meanings of the names of "Cain and Abel" are windows into their characters. Cain is a possessor, one who has substance while Abel is empty of substance. 

    This may seem odd to us, because we have always assumed that Abel was the good guy and Cain the bad, but this is an oversimplification of the facts, as according to their names, a reflection of their character, Cain is what we would call "a man of character," but Abel is "vain." 

    http://www.ancient-hebrew.org/articles_cainandabel.html

    I think Cain and Abel are kind of like the Prodigal Son and his brothers (the hardworking brothers were envious/resented the slacker brother's paternal attention) Kind of like Joseph and his brothers.

    I get the thing with Romulus and Remus, but there divine favor is in the reverse.  
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    Re: CAIN & ABEL
    « Reply #12 on: December 19, 2017, 11:49:21 PM »
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    • Of course, that website is hardly the final authority, but it is interesting.  

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