So here is the full section on ѕυιcιdє in the New Catechism:

2282 If ѕυιcιdє is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in ѕυιcιdє is contrary to the moral law.

The public nature of this rancid soul's departure makes it a clear mortal sin.  

Barring some extraordinary intervention from Heaven, we can all shudder at the destination of this particular soul.  Tragically, her public example will lead at least some others to follow suit.  

Does this mean that if a man is dying miserably from a war wound
in the field and is shreiking for you to mercy kill him (no chance
of survival, only pain), that you commit murder and he commits
ѕυιcιdє for telling you to kill him ?
I wonder if Jesus wouldn't look too heavily upon all the theological
talking points and perhaps won't be so "automatic" to condemn
her to eternal hellfire.. you know, it wouldn't surprise me if she
makes Purgatory, with some extra suffering.

So here is the full section on ѕυιcιdє in the New Catechism:

ѕυιcιdє

2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.


Would you say that this description leads one to believe that it is a mortal sin still?

2VT, love your posts but should that be on a Catholic forum?

So from the deposit of Faith (several Councils and Holy Scripture), we can't eat or pray with Jєωs, heretics, apostates, and others of the "condemned" variety who openly reject God; and the Council of Laodicea said we can't go to non-Catholic burial places to pray with or for the non-Catholics ...but we can pray for them if they condemn themselves eternally by committing ѕυιcιdє?

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Would one pray that "the master of my fate and captain of my soul" ѕυιcιdє might jump up a Dante level and be in a better part of Hell? Level up, like in a video game?

Snowball, your scenario sort of actually happened in Holy Writ. King Saul fell on his sword after the guy with him refused to run him through; and also when Job suffered grievously for far longer with far less support, but fought the good fight and was eventually made whole and then some. God smiled upon Job, but not Saul. ѕυιcιdє is condemned. And so is murder. Always has been; always will be. The Faithful don't write the rules; we bow our heads and pray for the strength to abide by them, and help prop each other up, and pray to our Advocate along with the Saints if we're in communion of Saints (ie, the Church).

And 2V took my joke  

Why the downthumb? It was an honest question, I did not intend to make fun or anything like that.

Does brain cancer make you gain weight?

She looks slim in the pictures but heavier in the video.

Her younger photos looked professionally touched up, the ones I saw show her in a wedding gown.

When she became ill, it is likely that she turned to the comforts of food.

This is obviously a united effort of the news media moguls to promote assisted ѕυιcιdє across the nation.

There are already 5 states that allow it, and there already have been over 700 people who have already done what Maynard did - so why the sudden focus on this woman?  

Obviously, they want to get the ball rolling for as many states as possible to get the legislation through. They are just pretty much prepping the nation for what they have already determined to get established everywhere.

I think some people overlook something in regard to mortal sin. Yes, ѕυιcιdє is a mortal sin, meaning that it is grave matter. But someone doesn't go to hell for merely committing ѕυιcιdє....someone goes to hell for being guilty of committing it. Guilt is not determined merely on the act of grave matter, but also on full knowledge and consent. Sometimes people have an erroneous conscience.

This lady didn't look like she was in a good state to begin with. I got the impression she treated life as if she were just an animal seeking pleasures and experiences. To be in such a state of mind is actually the worst thing, and her mercy killing is merely a cherry on top....indicative of the way she already lived.