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Offline Jehanne

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Brittany Maynard, Countdown to eternal Hell!
« on: October 25, 2014, 05:47:13 AM »
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    The present Catechism (in spite of its other deficiencies) defines mortal sin:

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    1857 For a sin to be mortal, three conditions must together be met: "Mortal sin is sin whose object is grave matter and which is also committed with full knowledge and deliberate consent."

    1858 Grave matter is specified by the Ten Commandments, corresponding to the answer of Jesus to the rich young man: "Do not kill, Do not commit adultery, Do not steal, Do not bear false witness, Do not defraud, Honor your father and your mother." The gravity of sins is more or less great: murder is graver than theft. One must also take into account who is wronged: violence against parents is in itself graver than violence against a stranger.

    1859 Mortal sin requires full knowledge and complete consent. It presupposes knowledge of the sinful character of the act, of its opposition to God's law. It also implies a consent sufficiently deliberate to be a personal choice. Feigned ignorance and hardness of heart do not diminish, but rather increase, the voluntary character of a sin.

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    Brittany Maynard, Countdown to eternal Hell!
    « Reply #1 on: November 02, 2014, 11:41:09 AM »
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  • Brittany has decided to postpone her irrevocable entry into eternal Hell:

    http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/oct/30/brittany-maynard-terminally-ill-cancer-patient-ret/

    Let us all continue to pray that she will put the everlasting concerns of her eternal, immortal soul before that of any infinitesimal earthly suffering.  And, let us also pray for the shoddy, modernist seminarian who wrote Brittany a public letter:

    http://angelqueen.org/2014/10/24/seminarian-phillip-terminal-brain-cancer-response-to-brittany-maynard/

    without even mentioning the fate of her eternal soul.


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    « Reply #2 on: November 02, 2014, 04:23:02 PM »
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  • Oh that is so sad.  He really has no clue does he.  And he thinks he will be a true priest?

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    « Reply #3 on: November 02, 2014, 04:36:37 PM »
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  • I do not feel qualified to comment on the state of her eternal fate, nor of anyone's, but I do commend her on postponing her end date because it means she is pursuing other options - maybe she will forgo the assisted suicide altogether.
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    « Reply #4 on: November 02, 2014, 05:18:21 PM »
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  • If her deliberate plan to kill herself does not constitute mortal sin, pray tell, what would be a mortal sin?


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    « Reply #5 on: November 02, 2014, 05:56:30 PM »
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  • No, it does constitute mortal sin. I'm just saying good for her for the ever slight change of heart.

    She is not as adamant in pursuing assisted suicide as before and I'm still hopeful, as nothing is impossible with God, that she will not go through with it.
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    « Reply #6 on: November 02, 2014, 05:57:20 PM »
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  • Not surprising about the seminarian, since after Vatican II seminaries have become hotspots of liberal nonsense and also "pink palaces" where homosexual perverts rule the roost.

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    « Reply #7 on: November 02, 2014, 06:06:03 PM »
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  • I agree. His illness is something no person should ever endure, but Brittany Maynard's cause is nothing heroic.
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    « Reply #8 on: November 02, 2014, 07:19:32 PM »
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  • Brittany Maynard has ended her life.  

    Dear God, have mercy upon her and on all of us ... this is so terrible, not only for her but for our country.  Will any of us see old age?  Will we be killed as soon as we show signs of weakness or illness?

    http://www.people.com/article/brittany-maynard-died-terminal-brain-cancer

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    « Reply #9 on: November 02, 2014, 07:39:22 PM »
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  • Well,  too late for this poor lost soul who forgot that God alone is the giver and taker of life.

    http://www.people.com/people/mobile/article/0,,20868349,00.html
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.

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    « Reply #10 on: November 02, 2014, 07:46:55 PM »
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  • Surely the liberals will make use of this type of news in order to further push their godless agenda of death.  Assisted suicide just like abortion is rebelling against God as Lucifer did at the beginning.  It is the ultimate rebellion which can only be punished by the eternal absence of the Beatific Vision. How disposable human life has become is nothing less than horrifying. We have descended lower than the beasts. Satan must be delighted with our behavior.
    If anyone says that true and natural water is not necessary for baptism and thus twists into some metaphor the words of our Lord Jesus Christ" Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Spirit" (Jn 3:5) let him be anathema.


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    « Reply #11 on: November 02, 2014, 10:54:05 PM »
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  • She has, at least to a moral certitude, consigned herself to eternal Hell.  Saint Thomas clearly speaks the mind of the true Church on suicide:

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    It is altogether unlawful to kill oneself, for three reasons. First, because everything naturally loves itself, the result being that everything naturally keeps itself in being, and resists corruptions so far as it can. Wherefore suicide is contrary to the inclination of nature, and to charity whereby every man should love himself. Hence suicide is always a mortal sin, as being contrary to the natural law and to charity. Secondly, because every part, as such, belongs to the whole. Now every man is part of the community, and so, as such, he belongs to the community. Hence by killing himself he injures the community, as the Philosopher declares (Ethic. v, 11). Thirdly, because life is God's gift to man, and is subject to His power, Who kills and makes to live. Hence whoever takes his own life, sins against God, even as he who kills another's slave, sins against that slave's master, and as he who usurps to himself judgment of a matter not entrusted to him. For it belongs to God alone to pronounce sentence of death and life, according to Deuteronomy 32:39, "I will kill and I will make to live." (ST, II II, Q.64)


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    Man is made master of himself through his free-will: wherefore he can lawfully dispose of himself as to those matters which pertain to this life which is ruled by man's free-will. But the passage from this life to another and happier one is subject not to man's free-will but to the power of God. Hence it is not lawful for man to take his own life that he may pass to a happier life, nor that he may escape any unhappiness whatsoever of the present life, because the ultimate and most fearsome evil of this life is death, as the Philosopher states (Ethic. iii, 6). Therefore to bring death upon oneself in order to escape the other afflictions of this life, is to adopt a greater evil in order to avoid a lesser. On like manner it is unlawful to take one's own life on account of one's having committed a sin, both because by so doing one does oneself a very great injury, by depriving oneself of the time needful for repentance, and because it is not lawful to slay an evildoer except by the sentence of the public authority. Again it is unlawful for a woman to kill herself lest she be violated, because she ought not to commit on herself the very great sin of suicide, to avoid the lesser sir; of another. For she commits no sin in being violated by force, provided she does not consent, since "without consent of the mind there is no stain on the body," as the Blessed Lucy declared. Now it is evident that fornication and adultery are less grievous sins than taking a man's, especially one's own, life: since the latter is most grievous, because one injures oneself, to whom one owes the greatest love. Moreover it is most dangerous since no time is left wherein to expiate it by repentance. Again it is not lawful for anyone to take his own life for fear he should consent to sin, because "evil must not be done that good may come" (Romans 3:8) or that evil may be avoided especially if the evil be of small account and an uncertain event, for it is uncertain whether one will at some future time consent to a sin, since God is able to deliver man from sin under any temptation whatever. (ST, II II, Q.64, A.3)

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    « Reply #12 on: November 02, 2014, 11:35:21 PM »
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  • It used to be "a matter of fact", understood by all Catholics everywhere that those who commit Suicide, damn themselves and go to Hell. There used to be a great shame upon this deplorable fact and those who did it, could not even receive Christian burial.

    Nowadays, when we face the heresy of Modernism with its typical disordered sentimentality, there are many who insist that this woman who in all evidence dies in mortal sin can be saved (nobody knows what happens between God and the soul at last minute, they say). As everyone knows, currently all Catholic doctrines are but a shadow of what they used to be and in the insane upside world we live in, suicide has even been idealized.  

    From the New Catechism:
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    We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.


    And compare this with the traditional teaching:

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    Key Points about Suicide
     
    •Suicide is murder
    The man who takes his own life, or helps another to do so, violates the Fifth Commandment, Thou shall not kill, and commits a crime before God - a mortal sin.

    •Suicide is an act of despair
     The Catholic may not despair but relies on God’s mercy and help, which is often nearest when the need is greatest. Despair that ends in suicide is a sin against the providence of God (St. Thomas, Summa Theologica II,II, q. 64, a. 5).

    •Suicide is a revolt against the will of God
     God is the author of life and only He can determine when a man should die (Deut 32:39). Self-destruction is a presumptuous encroachment upon the divine rights and shows contempt for God, by flinging back at Him His greatest gift to man, which is life (St. Augustine, City of God, 1, I, chap 20, P.L. vol. 41, col. 35).

    Suicide entails Hell
     According to Catholic Morals, one who commits suicide goes to Hell. That is why the Church for many centuries denied Catholic burial, Masses and religious rites to those who committed suicide (Code of Canon Law, 1917, cans. 1240, 1241, 2339).

    •Suicide is an act of cowardice
     Instead of facing the sufferings God gives and gaining the merits from them, the one who commits suicide fearfully deserts the battlefield. St Paul tells us to live and die for the Lord, and never for ourselves (Rom 14:7-8).

    •Suicide defrauds society, of which man is a member
     The person who commits suicide brings sorrow and shame to his family. Many times a suicide can also cause an unjust moral blame to be placed on another member of the family. The person who commits suicide harms those members of society to which he owes a debt, and also gives scandal to all of society. It is worse to take one’s own life than that of another, because the man who commits suicide cowardly escapes the consequences of his act for society.

    •Whoever assists a suicide is an accomplice of this crime
     The person who helps another commit suicide also commits a mortal sin. St. Augustine writes that "it is never licit to kill another: even if he should wish it, indeed even if he request it or, hanging between life and death, he begs for help in freeing the soul struggling against the bonds of the body and longing to be released; nor is it licit even when a sick person is no longer able to live" (Ep. 204, 5: CSEL 57, 320).

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    « Reply #13 on: November 02, 2014, 11:42:28 PM »
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  • God is Merciful. And Just. We had the readings today and a sermon about the Saints who suffered, and about possible living saints, and I see people in nursing homes who are truly suffering and are lonely (not trying to sound like Frank) yet live on for that ONE MOMENT they can pass on a word of advice, or a hope, to a younger person, and THEY are a testimony and witness to God's Mercy and Justice. THEY suffer for Our Lord; they suffer grievously. And many others suffer silently and give us living witness to carry on through our own tribulations...

    and then I see this dead demonic and her dead family on All Saints' Octave/All Souls' Day and am horrified that people are calling THAT "courageous". Or better yet, catholics asking everyone to pray for her "soul". (Isn't it a SIN to pray Good come from evil?)

    I'm not praying for that, anymore than I'd ask God to bless a "marriage" of Sodomites. There's real stuff to pray for; we're not instructed to deal with those who have nothing to do with us. What's Our Lord's saying? "Let the dead bury the dead" or something? (Laptop's about to "update" so I can't look it up...)  Let the dead bury this suicide; let the dead world rejoice over her "courage". It sickens me, though.
    Legem credendi, lex statuit supplicandi

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    « Reply #14 on: November 03, 2014, 03:08:48 AM »
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  • Is there a correlation between invalid "sacraments" and assisted suicide?

     

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