Author Topic: Brittany Maynard, Countdown to eternal Hell! (Read 6925 times)

2Vermont · « **Reply #30 on:** November 04, 2014, 03:40:02 PM »

So here is the full section on ѕυιcιdє in the New Catechism:

ѕυιcιdє

2280 Everyone is responsible for his life before God who has given it to him. It is God who remains the sovereign Master of life. We are obliged to accept life gratefully and preserve it for his honor and the salvation of our souls. We are stewards, not owners, of the life God has entrusted to us. It is not ours to dispose of.

2281 ѕυιcιdє contradicts the natural inclination of the human being to preserve and perpetuate his life. It is gravely contrary to the just love of self. It likewise offends love of neighbor because it unjustly breaks the ties of solidarity with family, nation, and other human societies to which we continue to have obligations. ѕυιcιdє is contrary to love for the living God.

2282 If ѕυιcιdє is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in ѕυιcιdє is contrary to the moral law.

Grave psychological disturbances, anguish, or grave fear of hardship, suffering, or torture can diminish the responsibility of the one committing ѕυιcιdє.

2283 We should not despair of the eternal salvation of persons who have taken their own lives. By ways known to him alone, God can provide the opportunity for salutary repentance. The Church prays for persons who have taken their own lives.

Would you say that this description leads one to believe that it is a mortal sin still?

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #31 on:** November 04, 2014, 04:02:01 PM »

Quote from: 2Vermont

So here is the full section on ѕυιcιdє in the New Catechism:

2282 If ѕυιcιdє is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in ѕυιcιdє is contrary to the moral law.

The public nature of this rancid soul's departure makes it a clear mortal sin.

Barring some extraordinary intervention from Heaven, we can all shudder at the destination of this particular soul. Tragically, her public example will lead at least some others to follow suit.

2Vermont · « **Reply #32 on:** November 04, 2014, 04:10:58 PM »

Quote from: Capt McQuigg

Quote from: 2Vermont
So here is the full section on ѕυιcιdє in the New Catechism:

2282 If ѕυιcιdє is committed with the intention of setting an example, especially to the young, it also takes on the gravity of scandal. Voluntary co-operation in ѕυιcιdє is contrary to the moral law.

The public nature of this rancid soul's departure makes it a clear mortal sin.

Barring some extraordinary intervention from Heaven, we can all shudder at the destination of this particular soul. Tragically, her public example will lead at least some others to follow suit.

I was referring to whether the new catechism's teaching makes it clear that ѕυιcιdє is a mortal sin (not for this particular soul). In my mind, the wording is not clear at all.

snowball · « **Reply #33 on:** November 04, 2014, 04:37:40 PM »

Does this mean that if a man is dying miserably from a war wound
in the field and is shreiking for you to mercy kill him (no chance
of survival, only pain), that you commit murder and he commits
ѕυιcιdє for telling you to kill him ?
I wonder if Jesus wouldn't look too heavily upon all the theological
talking points and perhaps won't be so "automatic" to condemn
her to eternal hellfire.. you know, it wouldn't surprise me if she
makes Purgatory, with some extra suffering.

2Vermont · « **Reply #34 on:** November 04, 2014, 06:08:56 PM »

Quote from: snowball

Does this mean that if a man is dying miserably from a war wound
in the field and is shreiking for you to mercy kill him (no chance
of survival, only pain), that you commit murder and he commits
ѕυιcιdє for telling you to kill him ?
I wonder if Jesus wouldn't look too heavily upon all the theological
talking points and perhaps won't be so "automatic" to condemn
her to eternal hellfire.. you know, it wouldn't surprise me if she
makes Purgatory, with some extra suffering.

Not a snowball's chance in hell. :roll-laugh2:

Sorry couldn't resist.