Author Topic: Brittany Maynard, Countdown to eternal Hell! (Read 5541 times)

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #15 on:** November 03, 2014, 03:43:42 AM »

We are definitely in a culture that glorifies death these days (while at the same time fears death when it comes to people who actually deserve it i.e. the death penalty). This reminds me when this first started to get popular back in 2002 with Admiral Nimitz's ѕυιcιdє, which gained national news since the admiral was a World War II "war hero." As usual even then the clergy tried to defend such an act with his sister as a Catholic nun saying that God is merciful and she knows her brother was saved.

Ever since the 1960's the world has pleaded for a world free of Christianity's moral code. Well they are getting what they wanted.

Petertherock · « **Reply #16 on:** November 03, 2014, 09:50:58 AM »

This is someone to admire...she's dying of a brain tumor and living her life to the fullest until the very end...

http://www.aol.com/article/2014/11/02/player-with-brain-tumor-fulfills-basketball-dream/20987472/?icid=maing-grid7%7Chtmlws-main-bb%7Cdl39%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D556402

Player with brain tumor fulfills basketball dream

CINCINNATI (AP) - In between making two layups that brought a packed arena to its feet, Lauren Hill spent much of this inspiring game sitting on the bench wearing sunglasses and headphones.

The bright gym and roar of the crowd are still special to Hill, an inoperable brain tumor, though, has made her extremely sensitive to sensations her teammates and opponents take for granted.

The freshman forward for Division III Mount St. Joseph's made an uncontested left-handed layup for the opening basket of Sunday's 66-55 victory over Hiram College. Hill has just months to live because of the tumor, which affects her coordination, forcing the right-hander to shoot with her left hand.

She made the last shot of the game, too, returning with 26.5 seconds remaining to sink a layup right-handed for the game's final basket.
"Today has been the best day I've ever had," Hill said after receiving another award upon the game's end.

Her shots brought standing ovations from a sellout crowd at Xavier University's 10,000-seat arena, among many emotional moments for Hill as she received love and support upon walking out for warmups. Her audience included former Tennessee women's coach Pat Summitt and several WNBA players including Elena Della Donne, Tamika Catchings and Skylar Diggins.
Moved by the reactions - especially after receiving the U.S. Basketball Writers Association's Pat Summitt most courageous award normally awarded at the Final Four - Hill said of the disease, "we're gonna fight this."

Hill's determination to play while raising awareness about pediatric cancer has resulted in a fan base that goes far beyond the school located on the outskirts of Cincinnati.

The 19-year-old Lawrenceburg, Indiana, native's fight has led to an outpouring of nationwide support. Teams and players have signed and sent No. 22 jerseys to Hill, including 15 from high schools that draped the backs of the Lions' bench.

Hill started an online layup challenge that involves spinning around five times and shooting a layup with the non-dominant hand. Similar to this summer's ALS Ice Bucket Challenge that became a social media phenomenon, the fundraising campaign (#Layup4Lauren) has drawn Cincinnati Bengals quarterback Andy Dalton and other athletes.
The Bengals showed a video of her layup during a timeout. Defensive tackle Devon Still -whose daughter, Leah, 4, is also being treated for cancer - wore Hill's name on his eye black; Whitworth had the No. 22 on his gloves.

A series of videos were shown with teams meeting the challenge - with missed layups - and challenging others.

Fundraising by The Cure Starts Now Foundation totaled more than $40,000. The NCAA allowed the game to be moved up two weeks because of the urgency of Hill's condition.

Lauren Hildebrand and daughter Allie, a Lawrenceburg High School sophomore, were among 3,000 from the town who got tickets, including the school's pep band. Allie Hildebrand was Hill's "little sister" during the player's senior year and said handling her friend's illness was difficult.
"You can't cry in front of her," Hildebrand said. "You don't want to get upset in front of her. That makes her upset."

Tears were conspicuously absent on an upbeat day that celebrated Hill's perseverance.

Smiling upon entering the floor for warmups, Hill's mood lifted the spirits of several children enduring various forms of cancer. That included Cynthia Towne, 11, who undergoes periodic chemotherapy for a less-aggressive form of cancer first diagnosed at 4.

The little girl from Cincinnati grinned widely as she gave Hill a specially-made headband sporting the word "Believe" with a yellow ribbon in the middle. Encouraged by recent diagnoses for her daughter, Katie Towne said Sunday was nonetheless bittersweet.

"I'm happy for the joy of her getting her wish coming true, not only for raising awareness but also for being able to play in this game," Towne said. "But there's also sadness knowing that how much awareness she brings right now, she won't get to reap the benefits personally.
"That's what's amazing; she did this, knowing that," Towne said.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #17 on:** November 03, 2014, 11:17:52 AM »

It is now official, according to Yahoo news, Brittany Maynard, age 29
has committed ѕυιcιdє.
Where ever she is now at, she now wished that she did not make
that decision. She will now be directly responsible for others
following her example. Her ѕυιcιdє is to promote legal and
voluntary ѕυιcιdє.
This is how evil movements get started to get the evil legalized.

stbrighidswell · « **Reply #18 on:** November 03, 2014, 11:48:26 AM »

Only speculation on my part but I only read yesterday one of the links in this thread and she had stated that at that time (past her set deadline) she was happy to be alive so far. What changed in a matter of 2 days??
Wouldn't surprise me if she died naturally but those who surrounded her said she committed ѕυιcιdє as promised and drum roll the 'fawning eulogies' , keeps the evil agenda on track.
However she will still face judgement on her part in ѕυιcιdє promotion.
God be merciful to her.

Nadir · « **Reply #19 on:** November 03, 2014, 03:31:07 PM »

Quote from: JezusDeKoning

His illness is something no person should ever endure...

Because of our sin we all deserve to suffer. Suffering has a redemptive aspect and God knows the needs and abilities of each one of us. It is the means of our salvation (or in the case of an innocent) for the redemption of other souls.

1 Cor [24]

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Paul ...Who now rejoice in my sufferings for you, and fill up those things that are wanting of the sufferings of Christ, in my flesh, for his body, which is the church:

Immaculata001 · « **Reply #20 on:** November 03, 2014, 04:26:57 PM »

At the heart of the "right to die" movement is the idea that we should never experience suffering. In V2 speak, it's beneath "the dignity of man." Life is full of suffering and troubles and that's the truth of Catholic teaching.

I'm very saddened that she actually went through with this -- I felt that maybe it was divine intervention that she was feeling that "it was the right time," earlier in the week. I was hoping that others' prayers and her own deliberation would cause her to make another choice.

Cantarella · « **Reply #21 on:** November 03, 2014, 04:43:57 PM »

The right to die organization which supported Brittany Maynard’s decision to kill herself has ties to abortion giant Planned Parenthood.

http://www.lifenews.com/2014/11/03/planned-parenthood-activists-sit-on-board-of-group-that-urged-brittany-maynard-to-kill-herself/

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #22 on:** November 03, 2014, 04:58:56 PM »

This woman had a choice and this woman made her choice.

She had a rancid soul and the world is a better place without her.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #23 on:** November 03, 2014, 05:18:29 PM »

Where ever Brittany Maynard is now at. I bet she now wished she
was the best Catholic Christian that ever walked the earth.
However, it is now to late FOREVER.

MyrnaM · « **Reply #24 on:** November 03, 2014, 07:08:25 PM »

Who knows maybe she did change her mind and her "loved ones" gave her the meds.

We can't judge anyone's soul, and that is Catholic teaching. No matter how grave it may look.

Jehanne · « **Reply #25 on:** November 03, 2014, 07:56:58 PM »

If she is, in fact, in eternal Hell at this very instant, then she will be there forever and ever and ever, which means that none of this "The Triune God granted her forgiveness at the last moment"-speculation will matter in the slightest. Once again, Saint Thomas has much to teach us:

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Man is made master of himself through his free-will: wherefore he can lawfully dispose of himself as to those matters which pertain to this life which is ruled by man’s free-will. But the passage from this life to another and happier one is subject not to man’s free-will but to the power of God. Hence it is not lawful for man to take his own life that he may pass to a happier life, nor that he may escape any unhappiness whatsoever of the present life, because the ultimate and most fearsome evil of this life is death, as the Philosopher states (Ethic. iii, 6). Therefore to bring death upon oneself in order to escape the other afflictions of this life, is to adopt a greater evil in order to avoid a lesser. In like manner it is unlawful to take one’s own life on account of one’s having committed a sin, both because by so doing one does oneself a very great injury, by depriving oneself of the time needful for repentance, and because it is not lawful to slay an evildoer except by the sentence of the public authority. Again it is unlawful for a woman to kill herself lest she be violated, because she ought not to commit on herself the very great sin of ѕυιcιdє, to avoid the lesser sir; of another. For she commits no sin in being violated by force, provided she does not consent, since “without consent of the mind there is no stain on the body,” as the Blessed Lucy declared. Now it is evident that fornication and adultery are less grievous sins than taking a man’s, especially one’s own, life: since the latter is most grievous, because one injures oneself, to whom one owes the greatest love. Moreover it is most dangerous since no time is left wherein to expiate it by repentance. Again it is not lawful for anyone to take his own life for fear he should consent to sin, because “evil must not be done that good may come” (Rom. 3:8) or that evil may be avoided especially if the evil be of small account and an uncertain event, for it is uncertain whether one will at some future time consent to a sin, since God is able to deliver man from sin under any temptation whatever. (ST IIa IIae, q.64, a. 5, ad 3)

So, this idea for "final repentance" for those who commit ѕυιcιdє seems to be yet another theological novelty. And, yet, if the One and Triune God excludes infants who die without sacramental Baptism from His Presence, the Beatific Vision, it seems at least probable that He will also exclude those, such as Brittany, who plan their own deaths weeks in advance.

So, yes, to a near-absolute certitude, she's in eternal Hell at this very moment and will be there come tomorrow morning, and after that, forever and ever and ever. This message is one which we all owe to the living, for the salvation of their eternal souls.

Nadir · « **Reply #26 on:** November 04, 2014, 06:49:42 AM »

Myrna could possibly be right. She may have changed her mind and her "minders" decided to do it in case the word got it. It is in the realm of possiblity though I'm not saying that happened. It just might have happened.

By the way, Jehanne, near-absolute certitude is an absolute contradiction, a double oxymoron.

Near-absolute means not absolute and if it is, as you say, near-absolute (i.e. not absolute) then there is no certitude at all. We must pray for her soul. Even if she is in Hell, our prayers are not wasted but will be used in another cause.

Jehanne · « **Reply #27 on:** November 04, 2014, 07:17:24 AM »

I think that when she died that she went straight to eternal Hell. I am either "right" or "wrong" in this assessment. As for praying for her, I did say one Hail Mary on her behalf, but I do not think that I will pray for her again.

RomanCatholic1953 · « **Reply #28 on:** November 04, 2014, 08:39:39 AM »

She is now the poster child of the right to die movement. She bears
responsibly for every soul that follows her example.
Her sin was serious. She lived how she died, and died as she lived.
Meaning she took her beliefs unchanged at her departure where
ever she went.

StCeciliasGirl · « **Reply #29 on:** November 04, 2014, 02:06:45 PM »

Quote from: Nadir

By the way, Jehanne, near-absolute certitude is an absolute contradiction, a double oxymoron.

Near-absolute means not absolute and if it is, as you say, near-absolute (i.e. not absolute) then there is no certitude at all. We must pray for her soul. Even if she is in Hell, our prayers are not wasted but will be used in another cause.

Certitude can be modified by "near-absolute"; google the term and you'll see it's rather common in many circles (especially philosophical and theological, but business as well) to discuss the degree of certitude one has.

And in this case, it's about the most charitable one can get without falling into fantasy, because ѕυιcιdєs are condemned, and this one particularly so due to its public defiance of all things Holy, and yet Jehanne left room for God to operate. That's the "near-certainty".

I personally wouldn't have modified it at all (since I think it's de fide), but since it's been brought up, can anyone cite anything where Catholics are to pray for dead heathens? Everytime I've sinfully wasted my time trying to find something without "Faustina" in it, I just hear a resounding, "Follow Me and let the dead bury their dead."