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Books for Protties
« on: November 13, 2017, 11:25:59 PM »
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  • What's the best book to convince uneducated Protestants about Catholicism. "This is the Faith" is one that comes to mind. I don't really mean the more 'doctrinal' Protestants hung up on sola scripture. Maybe a more definitive explanation of the Sacraments and what the Church teaches.
    We conclude logically that religion can give an efficacious and truly realistic answer to the great modern problems only if it is a religion that is profoundly lived, not simply a superficial and cheap religion made up of some vocal prayers and some cerem

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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #1 on: November 13, 2017, 11:35:46 PM »
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  • How about if we start with the Holy Bible and the Baltimore Catechism.


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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #2 on: November 13, 2017, 11:57:12 PM »
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  • How about if we start with the Holy Bible and the Baltimore Catechism.
    Um, because I said uneducated. You really want to put the Holy Bible in the hands of an uneducated Protestant? What do you think that will achieve? They already have their adulterated versions anyway.
    Serious replies only, folks.
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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #3 on: November 14, 2017, 12:04:42 AM »
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  • I think _This is the Faith_ would be overwhelming for some not truly interested in studying the Faith. I have a vague memory of a pamphlet for prospective converts, something about the Catholic faith and the Bible. Perhaps someone else can remember the title?

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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #4 on: November 14, 2017, 12:42:44 AM »
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  • I think _This is the Faith_ would be overwhelming for some not truly interested in studying the Faith. I have a vague memory of a pamphlet for prospective converts, something about the Catholic faith and the Bible. Perhaps someone else can remember the title?
    There is a little pamphlet called Sola Scriptura. Maybe that would be a good one. But it doesn't cover things like confession and the priesthood, which are the real objections for the kind of modern prots that barely make it to their services once a year but have bibles laying all around their house.
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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #5 on: November 14, 2017, 02:43:39 AM »
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  • The old Catholic Truth Society pamphlets were good. There must still be a few around.

    See https://www.irishtimes.com/news/social-affairs/religion-and-beliefs/catholic-pamphlets-from-1920s-to-1970s-on-view-1.1596824

    and http://pamphlets.org.au/
    http://pamphlets.org.au/docs/cts/england/html/ctsdo340a.html

    When we were children, on a Sunday night we used to tune the radio in to 2SM (the Catholc Station) to listen to Dr Rumble, who had a program called Radio Replies, when folk would phone in with a question, if I remember correctly. We loved it.

    You can find more here.  http://www.radioreplies.info/

    Also available in book form (3 volumes) https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0895551594/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=0895551594&linkCode=as2&tag=httpwwwchanco-20

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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #6 on: November 14, 2017, 03:00:26 AM »
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  • Um, because I said uneducated.

    >> Check. The "Um" in this instance is uncalled for, but if you insist don't forget the time tested "LOL" as your next retort; it's like bluejeans and black for the vacuous.

    >> So, you said "uneducated"; so what?

    You really want to put the Holy Bible in the hands of an uneducated Protestant?

    >> It likely already is.

     What do you think that will achieve?

    >> It's already likely "achieved", because this is one book they're nigh guaranteed not to dismiss out of hand, because you said uneducated. Whip out some "papist publication" at Cletus and Lolita, and watch them comically sputter and scramble as they've no resort to either holy water or signum to drive you off. (Mind the gun racks BTW; "Holey salt" is not a typo for them; "Ouch")

     They already have their adulterated versions anyway.

    >> If that's what you have to work with, and I'm surrounded by them so I'm speaking from practical experience as well, then that's what you have.

    Serious replies only, folks.

    >> Likewise
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #7 on: November 14, 2017, 03:10:00 AM »
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  • How about if we start with the Holy Bible and the Baltimore Catechism.
    Then Urford takes you "fur serious", finds out that there's a later "Cataclysm", looks at you with cocked head and brow and asks, "Wah fur youn's down't use thissun?"

    Thoughts ripple Che; this would be an example of your BS come home to roost. "Uneducated" doesn't mean "stupid". Never underestimate Trailer Powers.
    "Lord, have mercy".


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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #8 on: November 14, 2017, 03:40:28 AM »
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  • The cassette tapes,probably available ONLINE, by Keep the Faith, they may be available as CDs, of the Commentary on the old Penny Catechism (England) by the late Fr Hugh Thwaites S.J. might help some, they are beautifully spoken and explained. There was and is a small booklet by Fr C.C.Martindale S.J.: Steps to the Catholic Faith. The problem is that most of the good thibngs were written for a very different world and for very different types of non-Catholics. It would be interesting to find a book that not only explains the basics of the Faith but explaining the mess we are in now. Some people might like Monsignor A.N.Gilbey's We Believe (available in the U.S.A.). If they could find it a novel by Fr Bryan Hougton: The Marriage of Judith might get them going in a way that a religious/theological book might not. Most people don't read much now anyway.

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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #9 on: November 14, 2017, 04:36:44 AM »
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  • The cassette tapes,probably available ONLINE, by Keep the Faith, they may be available as CDs, of the Commentary on the old Penny Catechism (England) by the late Fr Hugh Thwaites S.J. might help some, they are beautifully spoken and explained. There was and is a small booklet by Fr C.C.Martindale S.J.: Steps to the Catholic Faith. The problem is that most of the good thibngs were written for a very different world and for very different types of non-Catholics. It would be interesting to find a book that not only explains the basics of the Faith but explaining the mess we are in now. Some people might like Monsignor A.N.Gilbey's We Believe (available in the U.S.A.). If they could find it a novel by Fr Bryan Hougton: The Marriage of Judith might get them going in a way that a religious/theological book might not. Most people don't read much now anyway.
    Specific matter aside, the audio format is an excellent suggestion, as opposed to books.

    "Plug and play" as opposed to reading, and speaking of different worlds and times, has a greater likelihood of actually being used, even if "down the road" by one not yet in existence.

    Add to that, a person is more likely to be illiterate than literally deaf, esp. given the conditions of this Topic.
    "Lord, have mercy".

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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #10 on: November 14, 2017, 09:18:25 AM »
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  • Thanks. Great advice everyone. Except for DZ Please, who tried to derail the thread with a debate knit-picking me for typing "um" while using acronyms for profanity.
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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #11 on: November 14, 2017, 09:37:41 AM »
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  • A volume of Radio Replies

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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #12 on: November 14, 2017, 12:14:38 PM »
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  • I agree with the Radio Replies, I have those old paper backs.  And be sure not to forget your Rosary, for it takes care of any situation, especially heresy.  You can suggest a protestant to say 3 hail Mary's a day, give them the green scapular and such.  Holy Water are all starts to take care of demons and such.

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    Re: Books for Protties
    « Reply #13 on: November 14, 2017, 12:28:42 PM »
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  • I've been arguing with the Dimonds on a different thread, but this little pamphet is fantastic:

    http://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/news/bible-catholic-church-book/

    Since Protestants only accept the Bible as proof, this is a very strong approach.  It also uses a Prot King James version to get past the objection that it's a Catholic mistranslation.

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    Protestantism is unbiblical, and it is not true Christianity. Protestantism rejects the clear truth of the Bible on the Papacy (Mt. 16:18-20; John 21-15-17), on the Eucharist (John 6), on Confession (Jn. 20:23), on the necessity of Baptism (John 3:5) and much more.  In order to make room for their man-made religion, the Protestants also kicked seven books they didn’t like out of the Christian Bible – books which had been accepted by the Christian Church for over a millennium. Jesus Christ only founded one Church, and that was the Catholic Church. It’s necessary to hear that Church for salvation (Mt. 18:17). Hence, the Catholic Church has taught since the beginning that Outside the Church There is No Salvation. The Eastern Orthodox reject the Papacy, the last 13 councils of the Catholic Church, and allow divorce and remarriage, among other things. *This section of our website will be greatly expanded as time goes along.

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