How about if we start with the Holy Bible and the Baltimore Catechism.Um, because I said uneducated. You really want to put the Holy Bible in the hands of an uneducated Protestant? What do you think that will achieve? They already have their adulterated versions anyway.
I think _This is the Faith_ would be overwhelming for some not truly interested in studying the Faith. I have a vague memory of a pamphlet for prospective converts, something about the Catholic faith and the Bible. Perhaps someone else can remember the title?There is a little pamphlet called Sola Scriptura. Maybe that would be a good one. But it doesn't cover things like confession and the priesthood, which are the real objections for the kind of modern prots that barely make it to their services once a year but have bibles laying all around their house.
Um, because I said uneducated.
>> Check. The "Um" in this instance is uncalled for, but if you insist don't forget the time tested "LOL" as your next retort; it's like bluejeans and black for the vacuous.
>> So, you said "uneducated"; so what?
You really want to put the Holy Bible in the hands of an uneducated Protestant?
>> It likely already is.
What do you think that will achieve?
>> It's already likely "achieved", because this is one book they're nigh guaranteed not to dismiss out of hand, because you said uneducated. Whip out some "papist publication" at Cletus and Lolita, and watch them comically sputter and scramble as they've no resort to either holy water or signum to drive you off. (Mind the gun racks BTW; "Holey salt" is not a typo for them; "Ouch")
They already have their adulterated versions anyway.
>> If that's what you have to work with, and I'm surrounded by them so I'm speaking from practical experience as well, then that's what you have.
Serious replies only, folks.
>> Likewise
How about if we start with the Holy Bible and the Baltimore Catechism.Then Urford takes you "fur serious", finds out that there's a later "Cataclysm", looks at you with cocked head and brow and asks, "Wah fur youn's down't use thissun?"
The cassette tapes,probably available ONLINE, by Keep the Faith, they may be available as CDs, of the Commentary on the old Penny Catechism (England) by the late Fr Hugh Thwaites S.J. might help some, they are beautifully spoken and explained. There was and is a small booklet by Fr C.C.Martindale S.J.: Steps to the Catholic Faith. The problem is that most of the good thibngs were written for a very different world and for very different types of non-Catholics. It would be interesting to find a book that not only explains the basics of the Faith but explaining the mess we are in now. Some people might like Monsignor A.N.Gilbey's We Believe (available in the U.S.A.). If they could find it a novel by Fr Bryan Hougton: The Marriage of Judith might get them going in a way that a religious/theological book might not. Most people don't read much now anyway.Specific matter aside, the audio format is an excellent suggestion, as opposed to books.
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He is said to have had a significant impact on Catholic publishing during his 58 years of priestly ministry. His skill in defending and explaining the Faith was honed during the early 1900s, when he began his mission work to non-Catholics, often attending Klu Klux Klan and other anti-Catholic rallies in order to directly confront the speakers and attendees. He launched what has become one of the largest Catholic publishing houses in the world, Our Sunday Visitor. In addition to creating a national Catholic newspaper and distributing millions of topical pamphlets on the Faith, he published several books, among which Father Smith Instructs Jackson quickly became a best-seller. He earned the honorary title of Archbishop as a sign of the Vatican's esteem for his work.
The paper did take time out to mark its silver anniversary in the May 2, 1937, issue. Bishop Noll noted in an editorial that every cent the paper had ever made was invested in the Church, including a new order of nuns in Indiana he had supported with Our Sunday Visitor income.
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The main object of Our Sunday Visitor’s charity, he wrote, is the maintenance of the motherhouse and training school of the Society of Missionary Catechists (popularly known as the Victory Noll Sisters), which now has 200 members working in the most difficult home-mission fields. The editorial noted that Our Sunday Visitor used all its earnings for the support of religious, educational and charitable works, and pointed out that the firm was the nation’s largest producer of religious pamphlets and the first to promote the use of and to manufacture and print the Every Sunday Collection Envelope for Catholic churches.
.(http://www.huntingtoncounty.com/images/osv/frsmith.gif).hroughout the war years, Bishop Noll’s newspaper focused on fighting the war of moral armament on the home front. Evils such as birth control, divorce, indecent literature and movies were the target of editorials and features..But the war in Europe was ever present, too. Many issues featured letters from soldiers. One, signed “A Grateful Soldier,” praised the work of Catholic nurses in preserving the faith in battlefront hospitals. Priests wrote columns of Tips for Soldiers. Many issues contained letters from chaplains at the front, filled with details of Catholic heroism. Editorials urged readers to “send your copy to a boy in the service.”
.At home, Catholics read about how Americans were backing the war effort. An Illinois bishop donated the bumpers from his car to the nation’s scrap drive, painting their wooden replacements with aluminum. Bishop Noll praised such efforts. But the paper found fault with the general drift of the times: “Society adrift from God: If the world doesn’t return to Him in spirit of repentance, it is doomed,” read a banner headline in early 1942.
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Reflecting its interest in family life and problems, a 1953 headline asked, “In your movie going, do you encourage stars who do not live morally?”
I've been arguing with the Dimonds on a different thread, but this little pamphet is fantastic:Thanks, Ladislaus. This looks like a good start.
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Since Protestants only accept the Bible as proof, this is a very strong approach. It also uses a Prot King James version to get past the objection that it's a Catholic mistranslation.
Um, because I said uneducated. You really want to put the Holy Bible in the hands of an uneducated Protestant? What do you think that will achieve? They already have their adulterated versions anyway.Yes, with a Catholic Bible, because as a starting point it can shown that all of the truths of the Catholic Faith can be found in the Bible.
Serious replies only, folks.
Yes, with a Catholic Bible, because as a starting point it can shown that all of the truths of the Catholic Faith can be found in the Bible.Agreed.
Yes, with a Catholic Bible, because as a starting point it can shown that all of the truths of the Catholic Faith can be found in the Bible..
.While it is not required that does not mean that they cannot be found.
You're going to lose that argument, because the Church does not require that "all the truths of the Catholic Faith can be found in the Bible." If you start there, the Protestant will say you show yourself to be a deceptive liar.
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While it is not required that does not mean that they cannot be found..
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Can you find the infallibility of the Pope in the Bible?
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Where is the doctrine of the bodily Assumption of Our Blessed Mother in Scripture?
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Where in the Bible does it say that Our Lady is "the Mother of God?"
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If you're going to argue that the Bible doesn't have to literally say something, then where does the Bible say that? Because for a Protestant you'll have to provide a Scripture chapter and verse for every principle you claim.
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.Matthew 16:18
Can you find the infallibility of the Pope in the Bible?
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Where is the doctrine of the bodily Assumption of Our Blessed Mother in Scripture?
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Where in the Bible does it say that Our Lady is "the Mother of God?"
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If you're going to argue that the Bible doesn't have to literally say something, then where does the Bible say that? Because for a Protestant you'll have to provide a Scripture chapter and verse for every principle you claim.
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.Luke 1:30-35
Can you find the infallibility of the Pope in the Bible?
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Where is the doctrine of the bodily Assumption of Our Blessed Mother in Scripture?
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Where in the Bible does it say that Our Lady is "the Mother of God?"
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If you're going to argue that the Bible doesn't have to literally say something, then where does the Bible say that? Because for a Protestant you'll have to provide a Scripture chapter and verse for every principle you claim.
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I can only do one at a time..
Apocalypse 12:1
1 Now a great sign appeared in heaven: a woman, robed with the sun, standing on the moon, and on her head a crown of twelve stars.
.Luke 1:48
Can you find the infallibility of the Pope in the Bible?
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Where is the doctrine of the bodily Assumption of Our Blessed Mother in Scripture?
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Where in the Bible does it say that Our Lady is "the Mother of God?"
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If you're going to argue that the Bible doesn't have to literally say something, then where does the Bible say that? Because for a Protestant you'll have to provide a Scripture chapter and verse for every principle you claim.
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.If John saw her then how did she get up there if she were not assumed body and soul?
So, what's the point? Do you know how many interpretations there have been of that verse? One is Our Lady of Fatima. So, what does that have to do with my questions?
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Can you find the infallibility of the Pope in the Bible?
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Where is the doctrine of the bodily Assumption of Our Blessed Mother in Scripture?
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Where in the Bible does it say that Our Lady is "the Mother of God?"
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If you're going to argue that the Bible doesn't have to literally say something, then where does the Bible say that? Because for a Protestant you'll have to provide a Scripture chapter and verse for every principle you claim.
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15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle.
Matthew 16:18.
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Can you find the infallibility of the Pope in the Bible?
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Where is the doctrine of the bodily Assumption of Our Blessed Mother in Scripture?
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Where in the Bible does it say that Our Lady is "the Mother of God?"
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If you're going to argue that the Bible doesn't have to literally say something, then where does the Bible say that? Because for a Protestant you'll have to provide a Scripture chapter and verse for every principle you claim.
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If John saw her then how did she get up there if she were not assumed body and soul?.
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Quote from: Neil Obstat on November 16, 2017, 01:47:18 PM (https://www.cathinfo.com/general-discussion/books-for-protties/msg579561/#msg579561)Quote.
Can you find the infallibility of the Pope in the Bible?
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Where is the doctrine of the bodily Assumption of Our Blessed Mother in Scripture?
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Where in the Bible does it say that Our Lady is "the Mother of God?"
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If you're going to argue that the Bible doesn't have to literally say something, then where does the Bible say that? Because for a Protestant you'll have to provide a Scripture chapter and verse for every principle you claim.
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One thing also. You need to understand the Jєωs to understand this. When we say, "Jesus is Lord," we are also saying, "Jesus is God." Because the Jєωs did not use the name "God" when they talked about Him. They used the word "Lord." Therefore when we say "Jesus is Lord," we are also saying Mary is the Mother of God.