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Traditional Catholic Faith => General Discussion => Topic started by: Matthew on January 21, 2009, 12:16:43 PM
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From the Remnant:
http://www.remnantnewspaper.com/Archives/2009-sspx_bishop_to_be_charged.htm
Note that this comes at a time of many rumors about the imminent lifting of the excommunications.
Rough Translation of Story on SVT Website
Remnant Press Release
Source: Swedish television http://www.svt.se
The Swedish state television, SVT, will tomorrow run a "docuмentary" on the SSPX apostolate in Sweden.
On the SVT website we can read today (one day before the actual docuмentary):
English version:
"Reactions in Germany-even before the broadcast!
Published january 20 2009 - 12:00
Updated January 20 2009 - 15:49
Ali Fegan interviews Bishop Richard Williamson
This week's story in "Uppdrag Granskning" ( Research Mission )about the Catholic priestly fraternity SSPX is already provoking debate in Germany. The influential Jєωιѕн Central Agency is filing police charges against the bishop of the Society, Richard Williamson, due to remarks he had in an interview with Uppdrag Granskning's reporter Ali Fegan.
The Bishop is denying the h0Ɩ0cαųst during WWII and believes the German people has been fooled. The interview will be broadcasted on SVT 1, Wednesday 8pm and on SVT Play (Internet)
According to German law, it is illegal to deny or question details about the h0Ɩ0cαųst. The Bishop risks prosecution and prison after the interview, which was conducted in Germany in November 2008.
The respected German weekly Der Spiegel (The Mirror) discusses in this week's issue which effects the comments will have and which impact they will have on the Pope's coming visit to Israel.
Uppdrag Granskning's reporter Ali Fegan unmasks in Wednesday's docuмentary a Society of Right-Wing Extremists and h0Ɩ0cαųst deniers. The Society is considered so conservative and extreme that the Catholic Church has distanced itself fom the group and does not allow them to say Masses in Catholic Churches - which in stead the Swedish Lutheran Church has permitted.
Don't miss it!
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Thank God we have some bishops willing to tell the truth, no matter what the cost!
May God save a high place in heaven for such a fearless defender of the Faith and the truth.
Just remember where lies come from (the devil) and where truth comes from (God).
Bishop Williamson speaks only the truth. Connect the dots.
Matthew
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One Third of the h0Ɩ0cαųst (http://www.h0Ɩ0cαųstdenialvideos.com/one_third_of_the_h0Ɩ0cαųst.html)
I remember watching these videos four years ago. I've always believed that any deaths that occurred in the cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs was caused by 1) disease and 2) unintentional starvation, near the end of the war, when nαzι supply lines were dwindling and food was getting scarce.
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As much as I respect Bishop Williamson I can't help but think that this sort of PR really makes the SSPX seem like a bunch of nutjobs.
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Red Cross Investigation of nαzι cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs (http://www.rense.com/general69/factua.htm)
No Evidence Of Genocide
One of the most important aspects of the Red Cross Report is that it clarifies the true cause of those deaths that undoubtedly occurred in the camps toward the end of the war. Says the Report: "In the chaotic condition of Germany after the invasion during the final months of the war, the camps received no food supplies at all and starvation claimed an increasing number of victims. Itself alarmed by this situation, the German Government at last informed the ICRC on February 1st, 1945 ... In March 1945, discussions between the President of the ICRC and General of the S.S. Kaltenbrunner gave even more decisive results. Relief could henceforth be distributed by the ICRC, and one delegate was authorised to stay in each camp ..." (Vol. III, p. 83).
Clearly, the German authorities were at pains to relieve the dire situation as far as they were able. The Red Cross are quite explicit in stating that food supplies ceased at this time due to the Allied bombing of German transportation, and in the interests of interned Jєωs they had protested on March 15th, 1944 against "the barbarous aerial warfare of the Allies" (Inter Arma Caritas, p. 78). By October 2nd, 1944, the ICRC warned the German Foreign Office of the impending collapse of the German transportation system, declaring that starvation conditions for people throughout Germany were becoming inevitable.
In dealing with this comprehensive, three-volume Report, it is important to stress that the delegates of the International Red Cross found no evidence whatever at the camps in Axis occupied Europe of a deliberate policy to exterminate the Jєωs. In all its 1,600 pages the Report does not even mention such a thing as a gas chamber. It admits that Jєωs, like many other wartime nationalities, suffered rigours and privations, but its complete silence on the subject of planned extermination is ample refutation of the Six Million legend. Like the Vatican representatives with whom they worked, the Red Cross found itself unable to indulge in the irresponsible charges of genocide which had become the order of the day. So far as the genuine mortality rate is concerned, the Report points out that most of the Jєωιѕн doctors from the camps were being used to combat typhus on the eastern front, so that they were unavailable when the typhus epidemics of 1945 broke out in the camps (Vol. I, p. 204 ff) - Incidentally, it is frequently claimed that mass executions were carried out in gas chambers cunningly disguised as shower facilities. Again the Report makes nonsense of this allegation. "Not only the washing places, but installations for baths, showers and laundry were inspected by the delegates. They had often to take action to have fixtures made less primitive, and to get them repaired or enlarged" (Vol. III, p. 594).
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As much as I respect Bishop Williamson I can't help but think that this sort of PR really makes the SSPX seem like a bunch of nutjobs.
As much as I respect trent13, I can't help but think that the above statement makes him seem like a nutjob.
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I know someone that came from Poland that actually went into the showers and stayed there for two hours when she was twenty wondering whether they were going to turn the gas on or if they were actually going to let them have a shower. They were completely naked and the soldiers were gawking at them...
The important thing to note about this story was that she was not Jєωιѕн. She was Polish.
It is evident that the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" happened, albeit not in such a way as the Jєωs have put out there. There weren't even that many Jєωs actually living in Germany, or the other countries with cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs at that time. It's silly that they even use the word "h0Ɩ0cαųst," because that actually means literally, "sacrifice." If they mean to satan, perhaps, but the 10,000,000 Jєωs they're claiming died during that time is purposely overstated to justify the forming of the Israeli state in the 50's.
Many were murdered in horribly atrocious ways during that time, and the gas chambers did exist, they were not only reserved for Jєωs, and I think that the -vast- majority of deaths during that time were -not- Jєωs at all. I think the percentage of Jєωs that were exterminated during that time was a small fraction in proportion to the number of deaths, in fact.
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Parentsfortruth --
That corroborates what I've heard personally.
My mom's co-worker (an elderly German man) said he knew many people who went to the cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs -- and he was a Catholic. I don't think a fervent Catholic had tons of Jєωιѕн friends -- they were probably Catholic as well.
Point being, the "h0Ɩ0cαųst" (tm) is a big Hollywood fraud. The actual number of Jєωs in Europe in 1938 vs. 1945 does NOT support the "6 million Jєωs killed" claim of the h0Ɩ0cαųst (tm).
And why would the nαzιs put tattoos on inmates, if they were headed directly for some kind of gas chambers? No, they made many of them do forced labor. When various diseases broke out, it required cremation of bodies (the only time the Church condones cremation is during time of plague, by the way) and/or fumigation of clothing.
I'm sure the nαzιs killed many people both on and off the battlefield, enslaved many innocent people, did inhumane experiments, etc. because they were pagan and godless -- but the reality of the so-called h0Ɩ0cαųst is far different from what we were taught in public school. The Jєωs were not the only victims, and the number of Jєωιѕн dead numbered less than most other groups which found themselves in the cσncєnтrαтισn cαмρs -- because Jєωs are a very small minority.
Besides, just look at how the h0Ɩ0cαųst has been used! Every time we point out "Umm...You Israeli soldiers shouldn't shoot women and children at point blank range with a machine gun." they jump up and down and scream "αnтι-ѕємιтє!" "h0Ɩ0cαųst denier!" and they get a blank check to do whatever evil deeds they want.
...and what historical events are we forbidden to scientifically research, learn more about, and discuss? Only the h0Ɩ0cαųst. It would be ridiculous if it were forbidden to discuss or deny the American Revolution, the War of 1812, etc. but people don't flinch when we're forbidden to discuss a morsel of history.
Why?
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Pius XII in his Christmas eve broadcast 1942-- this was to remain the fullest extent of his protest and denunciation for the rest of the war.
"Humanity owes this vow to those innumerable exiles whom the hurricane of war has torn away from their native soil and dispersed in a foreign land.... and also to the hundreds of thousands who who without any fault of their own, sometimes only by means of their nationality or race are marked down for death or gradual extinction".
Cornwell--Hitlers Pope continues pg 293
'It is not merely a paltry statement( by Pius) . The chasm between the enormity of the liqiudation of the Jєωιѕн people and this form of evasive words is shocking. He might have been referring to many catagories of victims of the many belligerents in the conflict. Clearly the ambiguous language was intended to placate those who had urged him to protest. But these considerations are overshadowed by the implicit denial and trivialisation. He had scaled down the doomed millions to hundreds of thousands and expunged the word Jєωs..... No where is the term nαzι mentioned'
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Cornwell pg 291
'In London, Washington and Moscow the Allies published a joint declaration on the persecution of the Jєωs and Osborne took it to the Pope, pleading with him to simply endorse it. The response through Maglione was a definite no. The Pope could not condem "particular" atrocities, neither could he verify the Allies reports on the number of Jєωs murdered.'
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It really bothers me when people call other people nutcases when there is strong disagreement with big brother establishment views. If that is your criteria, then Jesus Christ is a nutcase and most of the people on this board are nutcases.
http://drb.scripturetext.com/matthew/5.htm
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Blessed are ye when they shall revile you, and persecute you, and speak all that is evil against you, untruly, for my sake: 12 Be glad and rejoice, for your reward is very great in heaven. For so they persecuted the prophets that were before you.
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22 But I say to you, that whosoever is angry with his brother, shall be in danger of the judgment. And whosoever shall say to his brother, Raca, shall be in danger of the council. And whosoever shall say, Thou Fool, shall be in danger of hell fire
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Don't be consumed with anti zionist anger either! I have to admit fault with getting pissed off of how scuмbags have a temporary control of the whole world.
But the good news is that they know their time is short and they are going for broke in establishment of the one world antichrist government. The Good Bishop is teaching us that he is not interested in the treasures of this world (worldly reputation and even freedom), but he sees heavenly treasure for those who speak the truth.
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...and what historical events are we forbidden to scientifically research, learn more about, and discuss? Only the h0Ɩ0cαųst. It would be ridiculous if it were forbidden to discuss or deny the American Revolution, the War of 1812, etc. but people don't flinch when we're forbidden to discuss a morsel of history.
Why?
To get the point across, just read what HMiS has said:
http://www.websitetoolbox.com/tool/post/apologia/show_single_post?pid=31347413&postcount=2]
The bishop should not have spoken out. The h0Ɩ0cαųst dogma is HUGELY IMPOSED in federal Germany, Israel, Austria, France, Belgium, Holland and Switzerland, and people are incarcerated for up to 7 years (in Austria up to 20 years) for denying the 'h0Ɩ0cαųst'. If you kill a four year old girl, you'll serve 10 years. Just to compare things in 'happy' Europe.
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Im so glad yall dont drink (un-)Kool-aid! :laugh1:
Unlike some people.... :reporter: :sheep: :sheep: :sheep:
People should really start using there reason. If the socialist regime really did kill 6million Jєωs, then why did the US military transport SIX MILLION JєωS to Palistine after WWII? Werent they supossed to be dead???
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[/quote]trent13 said:
As much as I respect Bishop Williamson I can't help but think that this sort of PR really makes the SSPX seem like a bunch of nutjobs.
As much as I respect trent13, I can't help but think that the above statement makes him seem like a nutjob.
LOL