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Bishop gomez
« Reply #10 on: September 13, 2011, 12:08:04 PM »
Neo-Caths have lowered the bar to the point where, as long as a priest or bishop supports the Church's teaching on abortion, contraception, euthanasia they are considered "conservative" or "orthodox".

The Novus Ordo circus, with its million "options" has hypnotized the Neo-Caths into thinking the liturgy is just a matter of personal choice. If the already lax Conciliar rubrics are violated, they admit it is an "abuse" but then they sit through it week after week and "offer it up". If they run the abuse up to the Bishop he does nothing or else calls them out for being "trouble makers".

So you have priests who are orthodox on life issues who are looked at as celebrities by Neo-Caths while they are simultaneously leading charismatic healing services, singing "Catholic Rap", and presiding over rock band Masses.

To be a Neo-Cath one has to be schizophrenic and check the doctrine and liturgical portions of his brain at the door.

Bishop gomez
« Reply #11 on: September 13, 2011, 03:54:31 PM »
Quote from: stevusmagnus
The Novus Ordo circus


Reading this reminds me of something a neo-Cath on CAF said last year during a debate between the Traditionalists and the modernists. The neo-Cath said when replying to a Trad: "You act as if the Novus Ordo is celebrated by clowns and that we're all part of one big circus act".

Boy did he get it right.  :laugh1:


Bishop gomez
« Reply #12 on: September 13, 2011, 04:20:56 PM »
Quote from: stevusmagnus
To be a Neo-Cath one has to be schizophrenic and check the doctrine and liturgical portions of his brain at the door.


It's worse than that.  To be a true believer in the Conciliar religion whether as a Neo-Catholic, Novus Ordo Catholic, or a "traditional" Neo-Catholic (these are the indult Catholics who just love the smells and bells of tradition but stay with the New religion), one must not just be schizophrenic, he must be a true practicioner of Doublethink.

A full definition:  "To know and not to know, to be conscious of complete truthfulness while telling carefully constructed lies, to hold simultaneously two opinions which cancelled out, knowing them to be contradictory and believing in both of them, to use logic against logic, to repudiate morality while laying claim to it, to believe that democracy was impossible and that the Party was the guardian of democracy, to forget whatever it was necessary to forget, then to draw it back into memory again at the moment when it was needed, and then promptly to forget it again: and above all, to apply the same process to the process itself. That was the ultimate subtlety: consciously to induce unconsciousness, and then, once again, to become unconscious of the act of hypnosis you had just performed. Even to understand the word 'doublethink' involved the use of doublethink."

Frankly, we see this here on the forum all the time as members defend the indefensible and declare what they have already plainly seen with their own eyes and heard with their own ears was not what was clearly written and spoken.  They will even quote what was said only to make up new definitions in order to believe what they want to believe rather than what is.  Of course, the most famous application of this is in the now-famous quotation, "It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is."

My inability to engage in Doublethink is what brought me out of the Novus Ordo church and to tradition.