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« on: November 20, 2014, 07:22:28 PM »
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  • I clicked on a story to see what all the fuss was about.

    Basically, a half-dozen women are "coming out of the woodwork" (you know, like cockroaches) to accuse Bill Cosby of raping them about 30 to 40 years ago.

    Yes, you heard me right. 30 to 40 years ago. They were fine about the experience until now, but around 2006 some of them smelled blood, saw dollar signs, etc. and decided to "come forward".

    Ridiculous.

    When a woman is raped, wouldn't she want to report it right away, or at least within a DECADE? I'm not talking about young teenagers or those living at home who are too ashamed, etc. I'm talking about grown women, who could have easily gone to the authorities or brought charges against Cosby AT ANY TIME during the past 30 to 40 years.

    Why now all the sudden? And they seem to be springing up like mushrooms.

    Did he do something to tick off the Jєωs, and now they're destroying him as threatened?

    Seems very odd to me.

    Anyhow, I hate to see a man slandered. What if he's innocent? How would one of us feel if this happened to us?

    Yes, there's a small chance the allegations are true. Maybe when he was young, etc. but I'm still very suspicious of these woman that have A) everything to gain and B) nothing to lose by bringing these charges now.

    Did they wait until he was too old to have enough energy to fight this? Yet he'd have just as much money in his bank account. I guess that much was pretty clever of them...
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    « Reply #1 on: November 20, 2014, 07:28:32 PM »
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  • Let's face it -- Cosby did everything he could to help black people escape the ghetto culture. He took a lot of heat for it, probably being called a "sellout" or "uncle Tom" more times than he could count. He often made fun of the black "ghetto" culture and language. He encouraged other blacks to be "sellouts" as well: getting an education, speaking properly, being upstanding citizens, etc.

    I just find it interesting that such a man is being vilified in the media now.
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    Bill Cosby reputation getting killed by the media
    « Reply #2 on: November 20, 2014, 07:32:38 PM »
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  • I haven't heard of this until I saw your post. I just hope he is innocent.
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    « Reply #3 on: November 20, 2014, 07:49:24 PM »
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  • Cosby must have angered the Jєωs some way... Whenever the Jєω media is trying to execute a public figure's reputation, you can be sure there is a hidden and unjust reason why they're doing it.
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    « Reply #4 on: November 21, 2014, 12:00:14 PM »
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    I'm really surprised.  Have any of you listened to the testimonies?  

    Several of these women have been on the radio yesterday and the day before, telling their story, and the details are strikingly similar, with only very minor variations -- how he did it, that is, was consistent.  

    Bill Cosby was "America's Father figure" in the 70's and 80's.  His prominence in Hollywood was unquestionable.  His comedy shows were universally popular.  He had a lot of power in town and he had the power to destroy people's careers as well.  Now he is on record threatening to destroy the career of a journalist if he dares to publish Cosby's refusal to answer key questions.  

    Are you going to say his voice is being faked by the journalist?  Give me a break!

    The wife of a prominent actor (he played The Incredible Hulk) aired her version of the story just yesterday on radio, and a subsequent show re-played the interview in segments that gave the Tim Conway Jr. show top ratings, even higher than entire radio shows on the same station and others.  She described in detail how she had been set up by Cosby's friend to go to his house, where she was repeatedly offered a cocktail, which she had refused;  and then Cosby's wife left the room without saying 'goodbye' and then her friend was suddenly absent without taking leave, with Cosby and she left alone in the "green room" --- when Cosby suddenly approached her, pressed her to himself and kissed her aggressively and with force on the mouth.  She managed to push him away, being trained in martial arts, but that didn't stop him.  He seemed surprised at her show of strength, and returned immediately for another attempt, as if to indicate that HE WAS ACCUSTOMED TO his advances not being refused.  She reflects back now, realizing she had had the strength to push him away because she had not drank the "Spanish Fly" like the others had, and so she had been able to defend herself.

    Other stories from other women generally agree that they 'had a drink' at Cosby's house and that soon after that, they awoke to find they had been raped.  The obvious conclusion to be formed is that 'the Cos' preferred his victims to be defenseless and comatose.  That observation should not be ignored overall.

    President Obama came out with his immigration reform speech yesterday and a search of headlines online found about 6,000 related to Obama's speech.  But meanwhile, as little interest in discussing the same topic endured, around 5,000 headlines were found regarding Bill Cosby's controversy, and numerous discussions continued.  The point is, people in general are more interested in the accusations against "the Cos" than they are in protecting our borders!

    So while it is not inaccurate to say there appears to be a 'feeding frenzy' going on or that 'the Cos' is the latest Guy Fawkes or 'punching boy' on the media scene, it's a little naive to say that this is all 'the media's' doing.  Maybe the MSM isn't holding back, and maybe that's because 'the Cos' crossed some line, but still, if there were no truth in the allegations there's no way it could erupt like this.  

    As for why all these women waited all these years and only now are suddenly "coming out of the woodwork like cockroaches," as Matthew says, is reasonably and logically explained by the nature of women, which is very different from that of A-type males, and the cultural difference between today and 40 years ago.  Back then women didn't have any power, really, when it came to making sex abuse allegations.  It was all to common for them to be accused of "asking for it."  Add to that the full-Nelson grip that 'the Cos' had on career advancement in The Industry, combined with his ACT of telling Blacks they ought to be family oriented and shouldn't be womanizers, and you have a recipe for public deception second to none.

    Don't forget that in the South, Black men had long been at great danger for even so much as having a conversation with a White woman in public, and that sentiment lingers to this day.  Not one of Cosby's victims were Black women.  They were ALL White women, every single one of them...  Put A and B together.

    I'd venture to say that all these years, there was a blackmail situation going on, whereby the 'dirty secret' of Cosby's sɛҳuąƖ power plays was kept under wraps, so long as Cosby didn't dare to step over the limit line.  Just what that 'line' was, or is, remains to be seen.  

    But to come out swinging against the allegations is not a Catholic approach to this.  It makes you look like you're defending the sin of sɛҳuąƖ impurity, because all too many these days don't see anything wrong with it, and it's easy for them to accept.  But then don't expect to be respected when you try to defend the reputation of priests who are accused of pederasty.


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    « Reply #5 on: November 21, 2014, 12:24:35 PM »
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  • Yes, I find it VERY suspicious that women would wait so long to make these types of horrible allegations.

    Cosby has spent the last 20-30 years trying to raise black people up, encouraging them to get an education, not become criminals etc.  He has been, at least in public, a good role model for blacks.  Now he "was" planning another TV show in the near future, perhaps his character is being αssαssιnαtҽd to prevent him from coming back into the public eye and being a positive role model for blacks.  Someone, somewhere is trying to muzzle him.  What better way than to accuse a man of sex crimes!  It's easy for women to do after so many years.

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    « Reply #6 on: November 21, 2014, 12:34:51 PM »
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  • Without knowing (or particularly caring about) the details of the allegations against Bill Cosby, I will point out that I find it suspicious that a certain "viral video" telegraphed this current media circus one month ago. Truth be told, I find every "viral" phenomenon suspicious. I find the very concept of online "viral" phenomena suspicious (remember the "Ice Bucket Challenge?"), as it smacks of the typical "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" tactics of the NWO.

    In any event, here's a link to an article on the original "viral" video. Pretty intersting that this painfully unfunny ghetto hominid explicitly connects this mess with Cosby's (very justified) criticisms of black ghetto victim "culture" (which "culture" we all know was created and perpetuated by the selfsame Tribe that founded the NAACP - and I'm not talking about the Maasai):

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/hannibal-buress-bill-cosby-rapist-article-1.1981959

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    « Reply #7 on: November 21, 2014, 01:53:47 PM »
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  • Quote from: Marlelar
    Yes, I find it VERY suspicious that women would wait so long to make these types of horrible allegations.

    Maybe it would help you to understand better if you actually were to listen to what they have said.

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    Cosby has spent the last 20-30 years trying to raise black people up, encouraging them to get an education, not become criminals etc.  

    Correction:  Cosby has APPEARED to do so, and has ACTED THE PART of doing so.

    He is primarily an actor, and he knows how to play his part.  Maybe it would help you to speak with a few people who actually KNOW Bill Cosby.

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    He has been, at least in public, a good role model for blacks.  

    Key words, "at least in public," that is, as the public eye sees him/aka his appearance in the public eye.

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    Now he "was" planning another TV show in the near future, perhaps his character is being αssαssιnαtҽd to prevent him from coming back into the public eye and being a positive role model for blacks.  Someone, somewhere is trying to muzzle him.  What better way than to accuse a man of sex crimes!  It's easy for women to do after so many years.

    Marsha



    It's not so easy for one woman to do, or even for two or three.  But the number now is approaching 20 and don't be surprised if it passes 100 in short order.  These are not 'bag ladies' or 'trailer trash' or 'lowbrow' types.  They are women of stature, education and social prominence.  

    Take a swack at this concept -- maybe they HAVE a career because they did NOT 'come out' at the time, because if they HAD 'blown the whistle' then just as now, who would have believed them, and what chance would they have had in THE INDUSTRY?

    Bill Cosby is well-known for having been the key player in the destruction of many entertainment careers.  An apt word is 'notorious'.  IOW, it's no secret what he's capable of.  Maybe you didn't know about that.  

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    « Reply #8 on: November 21, 2014, 01:56:27 PM »
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  • Those are pretty serious allegations, Neil.

    You're right -- I haven't heard any of that. But why have YOU heard it? Are you involved personally in the Hollywood scene? Do you know some of the individuals involved personally?

    Do you have any proof?

    We're not supposed to treat individuals as "guilty until proven innocent", you know, although that's the normal modus operandi of the Jєωιѕн Media.

    If these allegations were so true, why didn't these women have recourse to the justice system? I mean, years or even decades ago?  Rape is against the law, you know, and few people are so wealthy or powerful as to escape justice on something as clear-cut as this.

    What, is Bill Cosby single-handedly controlling everyone and everything?  He was a great comedian, sure, but I don't think he had *that* much power or influence.
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    « Reply #9 on: November 21, 2014, 02:01:57 PM »
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  • I mean, Wesley Snipes was in several films -- he was a successful actor.

    But it didn't keep him out of jail for the smaller crime of Tax Evasion.  

    Rape (as well as murder) is a capital crime -- even more serious business.

    People don't get executed for tax evasion. They do for rape and murder.
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    « Reply #10 on: November 21, 2014, 02:06:28 PM »
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  • Quote from: BTNYC
    Without knowing (or particularly caring about) the details of the allegations against Bill Cosby,

    Sometimes people are happy to remain ignorant.  I'm surprised you'd be among them, BTNYC.

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    I will point out that I find it suspicious that a certain "viral video" telegraphed this current media circus one month ago. Truth be told, I find every "viral" phenomenon suspicious. I find the very concept of online "viral" phenomena suspicious (remember the "Ice Bucket Challenge?"), as it smacks of the typical "Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain" tactics of the NWO.

    While your concerns about Internet data manipulation are not unfounded, it seems to me that you're missing out if you can't be bothered to hear what the victims have to say.  

    When a White woman of social standing who has literally thousands of friends on her social network list goes public with such information, she would have to be lying to all her contacts for years in order to pull it off.  Why would she do that?

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    In any event, here's a link to an article on the original "viral" video. Pretty interesting that this painfully unfunny ghetto hominid explicitly connects this mess with Cosby's (very justified) criticisms of black ghetto victim "culture" (which "culture" we all know was created and perpetuated by the selfsame Tribe that founded the NAACP - and I'm not talking about the Maasai):

    http://www.nydailynews.com/entertainment/gossip/hannibal-buress-bill-cosby-rapist-article-1.1981959


    Perhaps you might find it useful to change the subject, but you really ought to be hearing what the whistleblowers have to say, and you should be thinking about the risks they're taking in their social networks for saying so.  

    If they were all lying, their friends would abandon them, and what good would that do for them?  What would be their motive?  

    One of them said that a few months after she was molested by Cosby in his own home, she was invited to a gala celebration (with her husband) where 'the Cos' was the center of attraction.  She acquiesced to go to the event, but she made sure she would not dare physically approach 'the Cos' for any reason whatsoever.  She had kept her secret even from her husband (who does not doubt her now BTW) and excused herself every time someone asked her to come up and say "hi" to Cosby or get into a group photo with him.  The memory of the affair was and continues to be a sickening one to her, and to be honest, she's real sick and tired of being sick and tired.

    Are you going to call her a liar?  


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    « Reply #11 on: November 21, 2014, 02:17:05 PM »
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  • This reminds me of the rumors you hear in the alternative news sites that all of our leaders are secretly rapists and sodomites who ritually murder children in orgy parties like the one in the movie "Eyes Wide Shut" (which I saw before becoming Catholic. Don't watch it because it is sinful).
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    « Reply #12 on: November 21, 2014, 02:25:11 PM »
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  • This accusations are most certainly bogus.  In America, young single women don't go to a famous star's home to not engage in sex.  In fact they go there for that very purpose.  None of those women are honorable wait to marriage types.  Also that there was never police reports filed or a criminal investigation, and the idea they were too afraid to come forward (Bill Cosby wasn't the mafia) or that they were ashamed, nope, not in free love pro-sex America, that just does not make sense.  And every woman knows that victimization is political power and a real money maker.  These aging women just want attention and lots of money.  And that's all they're doing, is getting attention and waiting for inevitable checks to be cut to them.

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    « Reply #13 on: November 21, 2014, 02:31:45 PM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
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    Without knowing (or particularly caring about) the details of the allegations against Bill Cosby,

    Sometimes people are happy to remain ignorant.  I'm surprised you'd be among them, BTNYC.

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    Are you going to call her a liar?  


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    Yes, absolutely.  

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    « Reply #14 on: November 21, 2014, 02:49:27 PM »
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  • I guess for Bill Cosby, when it rains it pours.   :stare:

    BTNYC is actually smart to not waste time on this story, although I think Matthew may be on to something with the suddenness of it all.  

    Neil is right, too.  We've got to know the facts if we're going to make any kind of judgement call.  Matthew wasn't questioning the veracity of all those ladies and their accusations, he was curious about the timing of it all.

    Bill Cosby, in the past, did full-heartedly take sides in the O.J. Simpson trial and then, sadly, he found out what it was like to have a family member murdered although Mr. Cosby didn't have hordes of human animals jeering at his the way Mr. Goldberg did.