Trads should currently want to live in Rome.  We need to take back that city.  I can recall a docuмentary stating that it has more satanic sects than anywhere else in the world.  Regardless of whether that is true or not, we need to take back that region.  St. Peter and St. Paul's bones are buried there!

I can recall a saint from butlers lives telling his future blessed or saint companion protégé to go to Rome and do penance there until the papacy(its integrity) is restored.  

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This may sound weird, but hear me out. The best place for traditional Catholics is a "world class" city like New York or London, one that is crowded with people from every imaginable nationality, race, religion, and lifestyle. The reason I say this is that one can "hide out in the open." If a family can afford to live there and can homeschool, two problems that result in loss of the Faith for the young are greatly lessened.  First, what I call the "hothouse plant syndrome" where children grow up overly protected from the world, then when they discover it, (in their adolescence, usually), they are severely tempted.  As defenceless young adults, they give it a try and get ensnared.  In the world city environment, they grow up "protected" in the home, all the while being strengthened in their Faith by guided exposure to world.  By the time they reach adulthood, they have seen past the surface allure and are far less likely to discard their Faith for what they know is chocolate-covered cyanide.  The second problem greatly lessened by living in a multiethnic city is that of peer pressure to "fit in." For example, many traditional Catholics who live in the suburbs lead double lives.  They look and act Catholic for two hours on Sunday morning, then change into their "normal" clothes and look and act like everyone else the rest of the week.  Reason?  If you dress like a traditional Catholic in the 'burbs, you stand out and are subject to stares, derision, harassment, discrimination at work, mockery, and, for children and youth especially, bullying and the prospect of having no friends.  Few adults have the backbone for this.  Even fewer adolescents can endure growing up as a social reject without arriving at adulthood having lost the Faith or being emotionally scarred. Because of the "certain fashions" Our Lady warned of in 1917, girls are especially affected.   In a city like New York, however, a traditional Catholic modestly attired, is just another fashion in the crowd of people wearing every imaginable garb from saris to burkas to turbans to looking like a prostitute.  In the suburbs, a teen girl who doesn't dress like a harlot is in for a rough ride.  In my Queens, NYC neighborhood, nobody gives me a second glance when I go out in public.  But when I will go shopping for my mother this very day, in the Long Island suburbs, guarantee I will get "looks" because I'm wearing a long denim skirt and a modest top when it is 85° F outside.  Every other woman or girl will be in shorts, skin-tight Capris, a T-shirt or too tight-top with skin showing on the bottom or up top.  I'm 54, so the "looks" don't bother me.  But to require this of a 14 year old girl is unreasonable.  Trad parents recognise this. They look the other way. So long as their daughters wear trad clothes to Mass, they let them dress in jeans and shorts the rest of the week.  Most of the parents do the same.  At least one other CI member, holysoulsacademy, who also lives in the NY metro area, agrees with me.  She has a large family and is a homeschooler.  Their family blends in with their multiethnic neighbors.  

Quote from: 2Vermont

Definitely not Vermont.

 :dancing-banana:
This may sound weird, but hear me out. The best place for traditional Catholics is a "world class" city like New York or London, one that is crowded with people from every imaginable nationality, race, religion, and lifestyle. The reason I say this is that one can "hide out in the open." If a family can afford to live there and can homeschool, two problems that result in loss of the Faith for the young are greatly lessened.  First, what I call the "hothouse plant syndrome" where children grow up overly protected from the world, then when they discover it, (in their adolescence, usually), they are severely tempted.  As defenceless young adults, they give it a try and get ensnared.  In the world city environment, they grow up "protected" in the home, all the while being strengthened in their Faith by guided exposure to world.  By the time they reach adulthood, they have seen past the surface allure and are far less likely to discard their Faith for what they know is chocolate-covered cyanide.  The second problem greatly lessened by living in a multiethnic city is that of peer pressure to "fit in." For example, many traditional Catholics who live in the suburbs lead double lives.  They look and act Catholic for two hours on Sunday morning, then change into their "normal" clothes and look and act like everyone else the rest of the week.  Reason?  If you dress like a traditional Catholic in the 'burbs, you stand out and are subject to stares, derision, harassment, discrimination at work, mockery, and, for children and youth especially, bullying and the prospect of having no friends.  Few adults have the backbone for this.  Even fewer adolescents can endure growing up as a social reject without arriving at adulthood having lost the Faith or being emotionally scarred. Because of the "certain fashions" Our Lady warned of in 1917, girls are especially affected.   In a city like New York, however, a traditional Catholic modestly attired, is just another fashion in the crowd of people wearing every imaginable garb from saris to burkas to turbans to looking like a prostitute.  In the suburbs, a teen girl who doesn't dress like a harlot is in for a rough ride.  In my Queens, NYC neighborhood, nobody gives me a second glance when I go out in public.  But when I will go shopping for my mother this very day, in the Long Island suburbs, guarantee I will get "looks" because I'm wearing a long denim skirt and a modest top when it is 85° F outside.  Every other woman or girl will be in shorts, skin-tight Capris, a T-shirt or too tight-top with skin showing on the bottom or up top.  I'm 54, so the "looks" don't bother me.  But to require this of a 14 year old girl is unreasonable.  Trad parents recognise this. They look the other way. So long as their daughters wear trad clothes to Mass, they let them dress in jeans and shorts the rest of the week.  Most of the parents do the same.  At least one other CI member, holysoulsacademy, who also lives in the NY metro area, agrees with me.  She has a large family and is a homeschooler.  Their family blends in with their multiethnic neighbors.