Author Topic: Bergoglio (Read 1351 times)

frluc · « **on:** March 17, 2013, 08:47:49 PM »

Deep spiritual sentiments instruct me that what lies behind this Bergoglio face is a demon! I do not say this lightly.
We will have to examine all his words and in the end there will be volumes.
I write this Monday 18 March 2013. Last Sat he gave an audience to the Press and he said [my recollection of his words i.e. the translators]: "Christ is the centre of the Church, not the pope".
Strange words that a Vicar of Christ should never utter. Note how he takes in the rock star status. A pope should never utter these words for the simple reason, HE IS CHRIST.
He continues the mission of Joseph Ratzinger i.e. the destruction of the papacy!
And at the Sunday Angelus he recounted a meeting with an old lady who said that "God forgives all sins of everyone" or words to that effect.
Very dangerous ground. Do we still need a Sacrament?
We can only expect more of the same!

Matto · « **Reply #1 on:** March 17, 2013, 08:53:03 PM »

Hopefully he won't fool as many people as Benedict XVI did.

Pelly · « **Reply #2 on:** March 18, 2013, 08:07:59 AM »

@frluc What kind of heresy is this? He is not Christ, but the Vicar of Christ. Look at the papolatry of the VII. And there was a Pope named Pius X, he was humble, he didn't need that bling. I thought that "Francis" will be something like Pius X, but he had bad moments, so he can't be the next Pius. Took children away from their parents, kidnapped priests, a Rotary member, accepted a Protestant blessing. What do I need to say?

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #3 on:** March 18, 2013, 10:36:20 AM »

As bad as this may sound, I am hoping he's very liturgically lenient and allows local bishops to "let things slide" and "not worry about the little details" and "not get hung up on scruples and such"...

If the Vatican II apparatus is indeed a counterfeit church then we don't really want it doing a good imitation because that may fool people and the fooled people may pay the ultimate price.

Pelly · « **Reply #4 on:** March 19, 2013, 06:32:14 AM »

The pope is not Jesus, if he would be a member elected in the place of Jesus, then we wouldn't need the Eucharist. This unclear statement reminds me of a NO writing which states if there is no Pope or impeded, then Christ would be not full in the Eucharist. Is this Sacrament dependent on a Pope? No.
There are humble Popes such as St. Pius X. Pius didn't need that pomp and security and didn't want his successor to live in luxury. Pius is fine when it comes to humility, but attacking Bergoglio due to his humility? I think that Bergoglio may use this to fool people in the NO.

MiserereMeiDeus · « **Reply #5 on:** March 19, 2013, 04:22:55 PM »

Quote from: frluc

"Christ is the centre of the Church, not the pope".
Strange words that a Vicar of Christ should never utter. Note how he takes in the rock star status. A pope should never utter these words for the simple reason, HE IS CHRIST.

Are you a troll?

Anthony Benedict · « **Reply #6 on:** March 19, 2013, 04:39:07 PM »

Quote from: MiserereMeiDeus

Quote from: frluc
"Christ is the centre of the Church, not the pope".
Strange words that a Vicar of Christ should never utter. Note how he takes in the rock star status. A pope should never utter these words for the simple reason, HE IS CHRIST.

Are you a troll?

:applause: :applause: :applause:

Time for .... :smash-pc:

frluc · « **Reply #7 on:** March 19, 2013, 11:27:57 PM »

http://romancatholicworld.wordpress.com/2013/03/13/francis-i-jorge-mario-bergoglio-a-jesuit-from-the-end-of-the-world/