Author Topic: Bastille Day in France (Read 3001 times)

Neil Obstat · « **on:** July 14, 2012, 12:09:59 PM »

I wouldn't have known if it were not for KUSC radio (classical music, mostly)
playing a bunch of French opera and stuff in observance of "Bastille Day."

Funny this is the day that certain Society members (SSPX is a French fraternity)
are toasting to their "storming of the bastion of +Williamson."

Any thoughts???

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #1 on:** July 14, 2012, 12:32:25 PM »

Let us not forget to pray to St. Joan of Arc, the Celestial Patroness of France, that France together with Europe may be liberated from the machinations of the Marxist Internationalists, the Zionists, and other fideicides, whom Bishop Williamson has been courageously exposing.

From The Little Flower Prayer Book: A Carmelite Manual of Prayer (Chicago, IL: Carmelite Press, 1926), here is a prayer that the Little Flower composed, inspired by the sight of a statue of St. Joan of Arc. A heart so humble and hidden and given over to interior solitude and silence can at the same time be the valiant, fearless warrior who is all jealousy for the glory of God and therefore strives to battle ceaselessly and fiercely for such a great heavenly King. It is the prodigy of grace that can reconcile two apparently contradictory virtues (humility and magnanimity in this case) in a harmony that resembles the apex of a pyramid: not only the mean between two contraries, but also eminently elevated above them. Such is the sacred paradox of the interior life.

I believe this prayer captures Bishop Williamson's spirit: I pray that he may be given the graces of the Apostolic life, especially the union of profound contemplation in prayer and fearless fortitude in the battle against evil.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #2 on:** July 14, 2012, 12:37:24 PM »

Fun Fact

Today is also the 442nd anniversary of the promulgation of the celebrated Bull of Pope St. Pius V, Quo primum tempore.

Hmm, is it a mere "coincidence" that this coincides with the anniversary of one of the most devastating attacks of Jєωry against Christendom...?

:reporter:

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #3 on:** July 14, 2012, 07:59:13 PM »

Quote from: Hobbledehoy

Fun Fact

Today is also the 442nd anniversary of the promulgation of the celebrated Bull of Pope St. Pius V, Quo primum tempore.

Hmm, is it a mere "coincidence" that this coincides with the anniversary of one of the most devastating attacks of Jєωry against Christendom...?

:reporter:

Good point! Quo Primum was printed inside the front cover of every altar
Missal that was made from 1570 until Vatican II! As I recall, that includes the
1962 missal (I think it was missing Quo Primum, that is - another reason to avoid
using the 1962 missal).

One thing's for sure: THE "NEW AND IMPROVED 1962 MISSAL" COMING OUT IN
DECEMBER WILL NOT HAVE QUO PRIMUM PRINTED INSIDE THE FRONT COVER!!

Today's also the Feast Day this year of San Buenaventura, that is, Saint
Bonaventure, patron saint of Ventura, CA, and the Mission Church there, founded
by the Franciscans (Fr. Junipero Serra), namesake of the Bonaventure Club,
where my parents met, Doctor of the Church, Cardinal (and therefore bishop) and
reluctant to be named the General of the Order, a concept hard to imagine these
days!

http://365rosaries.blogspot.com/2010/07/july-15-saint-bonaventure-doctor-of.html

Saint Bonaventure was born in Bagnorea (Tuscany), Italy. Baptised as John, he was frail and sick as a child. His mother sought out Saint Francis of Assisi — recognized as a saint throughout Italy even while alive — to heal him, promising to entrust him to the Franciscan Order if cured. A few months before the death of Saint Francis, he visited the family, and the child was cured. Saint Francis himself gave John his new name — in reference to the miraculous cure, and in knowledge of the piety of the child before him — he prophetically exclaimed of the infant, “O buona ventura!” (That is, “O good fortune!”). From then on, John became Bonaventure.

St. Bonaventure was contemporary, therefore, with St. Thomas Aquinas, St.
Anthony of Padua, and St. Francis of Assisi.

Elizabeth · « **Reply #4 on:** July 14, 2012, 10:08:50 PM »

Thanks for these interesting facts. I accidently brushed upon something that caused me to get the message "you will never have to read this message by Niel Obstat again" Sorry, I always enjoy your posts.

magdalena · « **Reply #5 on:** July 14, 2012, 11:04:42 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

I wouldn't have known if it were not for KUSC radio (classical music, mostly)
playing a bunch of French opera and stuff in observance of "Bastille Day."

Funny this is the day that certain Society members (SSPX is a French fraternity)
are toasting to their "storming of the bastion of +Williamson."

Any thoughts???

Yes, very ironic, isn't it. I actually responded to a comment of yours on Matthew's "General Chapter to make statement to Rome soon." I had problems with posting a couple youtube links. I was hoping you'd post the guillotine. IA has it, but I don't know how to put it in this site. It's all very sad. French Traditionalists should know better.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #6 on:** July 15, 2012, 07:23:30 AM »

Quote from: magdalena

Quote from: Neil Obstat
I wouldn't have known if it were not for KUSC radio (classical music, mostly)
playing a bunch of French opera and stuff in observance of "Bastille Day."

Funny this is the day that certain Society members (SSPX is a French fraternity)
are toasting to their "storming of the bastion of +Williamson."

Any thoughts???

Yes, very ironic, isn't it. I actually responded to a comment of yours on Matthew's "General Chapter to make statement to Rome soon." I had problems with posting a couple youtube links. I was hoping you'd post the guillotine. IA has it, but I don't know how to put it in this site. It's all very sad. French Traditionalists should know better.

Do you mean this guillotine?

magdalena · « **Reply #7 on:** July 15, 2012, 09:12:40 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

Quote from: magdalena
Quote from: Neil Obstat
I wouldn't have known if it were not for KUSC radio (classical music, mostly)
playing a bunch of French opera and stuff in observance of "Bastille Day."

Funny this is the day that certain Society members (SSPX is a French fraternity)
are toasting to their "storming of the bastion of +Williamson."

Any thoughts???

Yes, very ironic, isn't it. I actually responded to a comment of yours on Matthew's "General Chapter to make statement to Rome soon." I had problems with posting a couple youtube links. I was hoping you'd post the guillotine. IA has it, but I don't know how to put it in this site. It's all very sad. French Traditionalists should know better.

Do you mean this guillotine?

Yes, that's it. Thanks.

Neil Obstat · « **Reply #8 on:** July 16, 2012, 03:03:10 AM »

I watched the movie segment you linked but it was written in French, so I didn't
get it. A lot of people running around is what I saw. It looked like it was well-made
but like I said, I'm not up to speed in French, sad to say. Maybe some day....

If you want to see how to post the guillotine, just click on "quote" for that post,
and look at the characters in the text window. It's right there

the URL address has a [ and then "img" and ] then the address, then [ followed
by / and img and ] -- I can't put those all together for you because it won't look
like anything in the post itself. Use the "IMG" button on the post form, it comes
right after the @ button above the text window.

magdalena · « **Reply #9 on:** July 16, 2012, 02:55:42 PM »

Quote from: Neil Obstat

I watched the movie segment you linked but it was written in French, so I didn't
get it. A lot of people running around is what I saw. It looked like it was well-made
but like I said, I'm not up to speed in French, sad to say. Maybe some day....

If you want to see how to post the guillotine, just click on "quote" for that post,
and look at the characters in the text window. It's right there

the URL address has a [ and then "img" and ] then the address, then [ followed
by / and img and ] -- I can't put those all together for you because it won't look
like anything in the post itself. Use the "IMG" button on the post form, it comes
right after the @ button above the text window.

Thanks for showing me how to post an image. I might be able to figure it out! My French is very poor, but I think one can get the gist of the film clips. There are still many Royalists in France. For that, we have to be thankful. At the end, it shows the dates of their executions, and throughout the film, I believe the filmmaker is trying to make one understand the goodness of the Royal family and the horrors they went through. The whole world, unfortunately, is pro masonic-republic (is that the word?), and tries to demonise Altar and Throne with every opportunity. So it's refreshing to see a film that depicts Truth. At least that's how I took the film.

magdalena · « **Reply #10 on:** July 16, 2012, 03:13:41 PM »

I put this elsewhere, but here it is again, as it fits so well under this topic. It's the prayer of princess Elisabeth, the sister of Louis XVI, which sustained her during her imprisonment in the dreaded Temple Tower of Paris. "Eye witnesses of her execution reported that when the guillotine fell upon her neck, a very strong scent of roses permeated the square."

"What will happen to me today, O my God? I know not. All that I know is that nothing will happen to me which Thou hast not forseen from all eternity. That suffices me, O my God, to be at peace. I adore Thy Eternal designs; I submit to them with all my heart. I want all, I make a sacrifice of all to Thee, my God. I unite this sacrifice to that of Thy Dearly Beloved Son, my Saviour, asking Thee, by His Most Sacred Heart and by His Infinite Merits, for patience in my ills and the perfect submission which is Thy Due, to all that Thou dost desire and permit."

Again, I recommend Elena Maria Vidal's "Trianon" and "Madame Royale" as very edifying reading.

magdalena · « **Reply #11 on:** July 28, 2012, 10:40:24 PM »

Sorry to be back on this subject. But can anyone tell me if there has ever been an honest portrayal of Marie Antoinette and King Louis XVI on film? Sofia Coppola's film (which I did not see, nor have any desire to see), is obviously beautiful to look at, but the music is (from what I understand) horrendous, and the story is typically untruthful. I know that I can't expect justice to be served during this day and age. But I do pray God that someone, somewhere, sometime soon, will have the courage to set the record straight--and do it beautifully. Below is a clip of how the film could have looked had it been set to beautiful music. How much better even, had it been truthful.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #12 on:** July 28, 2012, 11:17:34 PM »

Yes from the trailer it's apparent it's a wretched film.

Telesphorus · « **Reply #13 on:** July 28, 2012, 11:18:59 PM »

The Bastille held the Marquis de Sade who worked to agitate the crowds outside.

The lesson I think, is that guys like him need to be promptly executed.

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #14 on:** July 28, 2012, 11:46:31 PM »

I think Joseph de Maistre (and even Voltaire) were right when they both said, "The books did it all!" The French Revolution was a product of ideology of the men of the Enlightenment. "Man is born free but everywhere he is in chains," writes Rosseau, Robespierre's favorite philosopher. Of course that statement is pure nonsense. Man is born dependent and up until that time no man lived better than in the France of Louis XVI. "Mankind will not be free until the last king is strangled with the entrails of the last priest," wrote Diderot. This dictum was carried out by Robespierre and Lenin. And were men free in the France of Robespierre or the Russia of Stalin?