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Ban Poche.
« Reply #40 on: May 30, 2013, 09:43:34 PM »
The execution of heretics was not performed out of the Church seeking vengeance or satisfaction against those who were theologically 'at odds' with Her.  Those who spread heresy are a direct danger and impediment to others salvation, especially when their heresy breeches the public sphere.  It is out of concern for the faithful who would be scandalized or led astray by the heretics that heretics were executed.  The health of the soul supersedes the health of the body.  

Ban Poche.
« Reply #41 on: May 30, 2013, 09:45:54 PM »
If you are interested in some information on the inquisition here it is. It may interest you to learn that it wasn't what you have been told it is. The reality was very different than the hype.

Most of the myths surrounding the Inquisition have come to us wrapped in the cloak of the Spanish Inquisition. It is the world of Edgar Allen Poe’sThe Pit and the Pendulum, with vivid descriptions of burning heretics, ghastly engines of torture with innocent Bible-believers martyred for their faith. In many ways, the reality of the Spanish Inquisition has its own human tragedies, but it is not the tragedy presented in the common caricatures.

It is a curiosity of history that the medieval Inquisition of the 13th and 14thcenturies was little utilized in Spain. It was only after the mid-fifteenth century that the Spanish Inquisition would develop, and its target would not be heretics in any traditional sense, but rather those whose Jєωιѕн ancestors had converted to Christianity and were accused of secretly practicing their old faith. To many contemporary historians of the Spanish Inquisition, the story unfolds not as a “religious” persecution, but rather a racial pogrom.

Spain was unique in Western Europe for the diversity of its population. In addition to a large segment of Muslims, medieval Spain had the single largest Jєωιѕн community in the world, numbering some one hundred thousand souls in the 13th Century. For centuries Jews and Christians had lived and worked together in a more or less peaceful though generally segregated co-existence.

http://www.catholicleague.org/the-black-legend-the-inquisition/


Ban Poche.
« Reply #42 on: May 30, 2013, 09:51:38 PM »
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Quote from: Sigismund
Yes I do.  Killing people is serious business.

 What do you mean by "proceeding" saint?


Then I guess war and the death penalty are immoral?


Well, they are serious business.

But your point is well taken.  I overstated my case.  Killing people over religion, even when it is the True Catholic Faith, is wrong.  

War is usually wrong.  There have been few of them, I think, that could meet all of St. Thomas's criteria for a just war.  I am not opposed to the death penalty in principle.  People who murder other people should pay with their lives.  I am also inclined to think rape and kidnapping sould be capital offenses, although American law does not.

Ban Poche.
« Reply #43 on: May 30, 2013, 09:53:15 PM »
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Is this post a good example of a reason to "ban poche?"

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May his soul and the souls of all the faithful departed rest in peace. Amen.


And if so, then why .. because poche thinks that Fr. Andrew Greeley is
among the faithful departed?





Oh for heaven's sake.  It is a prayer that Catholics say for the dead.  Please don't make more of things than is actually there.  

Ban Poche.
« Reply #44 on: May 30, 2013, 09:54:52 PM »
I must say it has been an interesting experience to watch my rep points go up and down as people read my posts on this thread and a popular post on another thread.  Sort of a rep point tug of war.   :smile: