Author Topic: Ban Poche. (Read 6854 times)

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #10 on:** May 28, 2013, 09:09:12 PM »

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Poche has the habits of a shill.

He posts ridiculous quantities. Shills do this so that lurkers see the post count and think that they're viewing the work of a 'regular.'

Obviously he has a NO agenda. It is right to first assume ignorance, and work to correct it. But Poche has been spoken to about traditional Catholicism more times than I care to count. He either can't or won't stop apologizing for the NO. His posts are not going to stop. If it satisfies users, I will provide evidence showing that he has been spoken to about this on many occasions.

Is he a shill? Who knows. But he certainly fits at least part of the description. And even if he isn't, he does not contribute to traditional Catholic discussion. And he does not make an effort to either.

I'd say take this up with a moderator, whose task is to prevent mob rule in the first place.

The moderator has been PM'd and there are threads with the title 'ban X' as requested. This way, when the moderator has a chance to review the issue, he can be made aware of important information that might affect his decision.

I would say an obstinacy in posting NO apologetics and patently boring garbage is relevant when considering whether or not to ban someone, don't you? :smile:

Maizar · « **Reply #11 on:** May 28, 2013, 09:28:00 PM »

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I would say an obstinacy in posting NO apologetics and patently boring garbage is relevant when considering whether or not to ban someone, don't you? :smile:

Maybe yes, but it's not my call. Why is he not yet banned? What does that tell you?

Mithrandylan · « **Reply #12 on:** May 28, 2013, 09:37:34 PM »

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I would say an obstinacy in posting NO apologetics and patently boring garbage is relevant when considering whether or not to ban someone, don't you? :smile:

Maybe yes, but it's not my call. Why is he not yet banned? What does that tell you?

That the moderator isn't omniscient.

Maizar · « **Reply #13 on:** May 28, 2013, 09:53:35 PM »

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I would say an obstinacy in posting NO apologetics and patently boring garbage is relevant when considering whether or not to ban someone, don't you? :smile:

Maybe yes, but it's not my call. Why is he not yet banned? What does that tell you?

That the moderator isn't omniscient.

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But if thy brother shall offend against thee, go, and rebuke him between thee and him alone. If he shall hear thee, thou shalt gain thy brother. And if he will not hear thee, take with thee one or two more: that in the mouth of two or three witnesses every word may stand. And if he will not hear them: tell the church. And if he will not hear the church, let him be to thee as the heathen and publican.

I take from this the principle that if you have a grievance, and Poche has not satisfied your grievance, then take it up with the relevant authority, escalating it until you get a decision. A PM can solve lack of omniscience if you are prepared to put a little work into it.

Lighthouse · « **Reply #14 on:** May 28, 2013, 10:02:58 PM »

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And did killing heretics fix anything, apart from giving crowds of people the chance to sin mortally by gloating over the death of one they hate?

Yes, after a while there were fewer heretics in town preaching the path to damnation. So, Maizar, you think the Holy Office engaged in unspeakable and sinful acts? And what liberal history book did you read this in?

And do you know for sure the crowds all gloated and hated. I suspect that most were praying their rosaries and repenting their own sins.