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Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #30 on:** May 30, 2013, 08:48:36 PM »

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Whether he does or not, I do.

I doubt that killing heretics has resulted in one genuine conversion.

So was Isabella of Spain just like Osama bin Laden when she kicked the Moors and the Jews out of Spain?

Yes in that she was not for religious tolerance, and no because Islam is barbaric and inferior to Christianity and Catholicism is the RIGHT religion and Islam is not.

Religious tolerance is a liberal idea.

Sigismund · « **Reply #31 on:** May 30, 2013, 09:15:46 PM »

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Whether he does or not, I do.

I doubt that killing heretics has resulted in one genuine conversion.

So was Isabella of Spain just like Osama bin Laden when she kicked the Moors and the Jews out of Spain?

Yes in that she was not for religious tolerance, and no because Islam is barbaric and inferior to Christianity and Catholicism is the RIGHT religion and Islam is not.

Religious tolerance is a liberal idea.

Pretty much, yes.

You want religious tolerance from others, but can't manage it yourself. If you think it is okay for Catholics to kill people because their theology is wrong, you rally have no basis for complaint when Muslims (say) do it. They are every bit as sure of their righteousness as we are of ours.

ServusSpiritusSancti · « **Reply #32 on:** May 30, 2013, 09:16:08 PM »

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And did killing heretics fix anything, apart from giving crowds of people the chance to sin mortally by gloating over the death of one they hate?

Yes, after a while there were fewer heretics in town preaching the path to damnation. So, Maizar, you think the Holy Office engaged in unspeakable and sinful acts? And what liberal history book did you read this in?

And do you know for sure the crowds all gloated and hated. I suspect that most were praying their rosaries and repenting their own sins.

Whether he does or not, I do.

I doubt that killing heretics has resulted in one genuine conversion.

You do realize that accusing the Holy Office of engaging in sinful acts is a serious accusation, right?

As far as I am aware, no proceeding Saint has ever taken issue with it.

Sigismund · « **Reply #33 on:** May 30, 2013, 09:19:35 PM »

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And did killing heretics fix anything, apart from giving crowds of people the chance to sin mortally by gloating over the death of one they hate?

Yes, after a while there were fewer heretics in town preaching the path to damnation. So, Maizar, you think the Holy Office engaged in unspeakable and sinful acts? And what liberal history book did you read this in?

And do you know for sure the crowds all gloated and hated. I suspect that most were praying their rosaries and repenting their own sins.

Whether he does or not, I do.

I doubt that killing heretics has resulted in one genuine conversion.

You do realize that accusing the Holy Office of engaging in sinful acts is a serious accusation, right?

As far as I am aware, no proceeding Saint has ever taken issue with it.

Yes I do. Killing people is serious business.

What do you mean by "proceeding" saint?

Traditional Guy 20 · « **Reply #34 on:** May 30, 2013, 09:20:39 PM »

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You do realize that accusing the Holy Office of engaging in sinful acts is a serious accusation, right?

As far as I am aware, no proceeding Saint has ever taken issue with it.

Technically it was the Church sanctioning the civil government in punishing heretics, so the civil government was the one who was directly involved.