I filed a canonical complaint against Cardinal Dolan of New York for suppressing my slideshow/lecture about the Shroud of Turin. My correspondence with Pope Francis and the Roman Rota is here.

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Both Aloes and Myrhh (the anointing spices) are strong astringents too - which would stop bleeding/sweat as it closes the pores!

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burial ointments would contribute to creating an impression  on the cloth

Yes, the Holy Shroud is undoubtedly authentic. What we call today the Shroud of Turin was originally taken to Edessa by St. Jude the Apostle. This is recorded in various historical sources, like Eusebius of Caesarea in the fourth century. This is also described in the Acts of Thaddeus, and certain very peculiar characteristics of the Turin Shroud mirror the Shroud that was in Edessa.

Leaving aside the innumerable other proofs of its authenticity, we will consider only one. A recent study discovered that only a very great burst of energy could have effected the imprint of the Man upon the Shroud. They estimated it would take some 34 trillion watts to accomplish this, which therefore incontrovertibly proves false the allegation that it was forged later on, the technology necessary to effect it did not exist in any age before the present .

http://gloria.tv/?media=230246&language=KiaLEJq2fBR

Scientists from Italy’s National Agency for New Technologies, Energy and Sustainable Economic Development spent years trying to replicate the shroud’s markings. They have concluded only something akin to ultraviolet lasers – far beyond the capability of medieval forgers – could have created them. This has led to fresh suggestions that the imprint was indeed created by a huge burst of energy accompanying the Resurrection of Christ.

‘The results show a short and intense burst of UV directional radiation can colour a linen cloth so as to reproduce many of the peculiar characteristics of the body image on the Shroud of Turin,’ the scientists said.

The image of the bearded man on the shroud must therefore have been created by ‘some form of electromagnetic energy (such as a flash of light at short wavelength)’, their report concludes.

Personally, I don't understand why this gets people all worked up.  Whether or not the Shroud or authentic or not doesn't change the reality of Christ's Incarnation, Death, and Ressurection.

Personally, I don't understand why this gets people all worked up.  Whether or not the Shroud or authentic or not doesn't change the reality of Christ's Incarnation, Death, and Ressurection.

Yes, that's teachnically true, but we're upset because it's just utterly preposterous to claim that this was a medieval fabrication.  So much so that only bad will against the Catholic Church could account for such a conclusion.  And attacking the Shroud, especially without a shred of credible evidence, only lends fuel unnecessarily to the enemies of the Catholic Church.  Similarly, for Fatima, technically speaking, no, the dogma of the faith does not depend on Fatima.  But the Church has approved Fatima for a long time and the enemies would love to discredit Fatima to further make a laughing-stock of the Church.  Same thing with the Shroud; for many centuries now the Church has endorsed the Shroud at least implicitly, and so the enemies of the Church would use an attack on the Shroud as a way to inflict another "black eye" on the Church.

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The cloth is carbon dated from the middle ages 1200's

No.  It's not.

While he gibbers about "hidden Hebrew words" in the name of the Italian city the Shroud happens to reside in presently, Glaston simultaneously places blindly unswerving faith in the infamously botched radiocarbon tests conducted by such trustworthy and redoubtably agenda-free entities as the University of Oxford, the University of Arizona, and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. I've heard of straining out gnats and swallowing camels, but this might be a case of straining out an amoeba and swallowing a blue whale.

Thus does an idolatrous obsession with superstitious divination darken the intellect.

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Quote from: glaston

The cloth is carbon dated from the middle ages 1200's

No.  It's not.

While he gibbers about "hidden Hebrew words" in the name of the Italian city the Shroud happens to reside in presently, Glaston simultaneously places blindly unswerving faith in the infamously botched radiocarbon tests conducted by such trustworthy and redoubtably agenda-free entities as the University of Oxford, the University of Arizona, and the Swiss Federal Institute of Technology. I've heard of straining out gnats and swallowing camels, but this might be a case of straining out an amoeba and swallowing a blue whale.

Thus does an idolatrous obsession with superstitious divination darken the intellect.

People can make up their own minds - not from your arroGAnt outbursts!
Straight off the pages about 'Common Purpose' brainwashing!

Made you 'jump' out of your 'CASKET'?
You faux-Jєω-Mason-Druid-Satanists are really getting upset!

GiBBers BB=22

Your hidden secrets are being discovered and 'pearls' revealed too!

By the way, the owners/their Masonic lackeys did exactly the same to me on a previous website I frequented when we were exchanging knowledge about The City, History, Climate Change/Jєωs/East India Company scammers etc etc.

Note the ferocity of their frothing posts and false accusations after my recent posts.

This is deliberate and how they manipulate website threads and people's minds.
(Pharisee seeds planted on websites)

All polemics and sarcasm aside - assuming you are not a troll, you are in serious need of help, Glaston... And, no, I don't mean from the witch doctors and drug pushers of the psychiatry racket. I implore you to find a good traditional Catholic priest and discuss these matters with him. Then -and this is the key part - follow his directions.