Author Topic: Lets discuss this heretical post by our friendly trad cath Gregg (Read 4193 times)

BTNYC · « **Reply #30 on:** August 11, 2013, 11:29:48 AM »

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Protestants have a few strengths that Catholics lack, such as Biblican knowledge

No Protestant has greater Biblical knowledge than any Catholic because the Protestant point of departure in study of (their butchered and truncated version of) Sacred Scripture is Sola Scriptura. Thus, whatever "knowledge" they have of the content of Scripture is tainted by that fundamentally wrong premise. A good Catholic who knows that Scripture is not the sole rule of faith is in a better position Biblically than a Protestant bibliolater who has fruitlessly memorized chapter and verse under the influence of sola scriptura.

Not every verse is "tainted" because they believe in Sola Scriptura. When I hear a priest or bishop quote a verse and I know it too, is the verse in my memory tainted?

I'm not sure what you're getting at in that last part, but, yes, every Biblical verse understood as having come from the one and only rule of Christian faith is indeed tainted.

Stubborn · « **Reply #31 on:** August 12, 2013, 04:36:44 AM »

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I hope ggreg will explain the post he made in 2011.

To stay steadfast in the faith is increasingly difficult today but the good Lord gives enough grace. I also find it frustrating to see so many Catholics espouse all these quirkly ideas about the faith when all they would need to do is open up a good book about the Faith.

From 2011? Hopefully he has changed his views since his Fisheaters days.

Gregg, what say you?

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #32 on:** August 12, 2013, 03:54:37 PM »

Ggreg is a man of the world. He lives the world. He loves the world. He thinks, eats, drinks the world. The world, and the ideas of the world, flow in his veins.

Ggreg, while being an interesting guy, is a worldling and is worldly.

Does it surprise any of us that Ggreg is someone who would put a qualification on his religious beliefs?

From the post above, I would have to say that Ggreg is technically an agnostic. And that he wants a "god" of his own creation. A "god" who thinks like he does.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #33 on:** August 12, 2013, 03:58:04 PM »

Protestantism is a heresy and protestant practices are offensive to Our Lord.

However, other than their own fevered imaginations, where do the protestants get the whole Sola Scriptura? Is it strictly a manfiestation of the pride that goes with disobediance to God?

I know it's one of the building blocks of solipsism, (protestantism, in addition to be a defiant refusal to love the Church that Our Lord ordained, is also a form of spiritual solipsism).

Tiffany · « **Reply #34 on:** August 12, 2013, 09:52:31 PM »

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Ggreg is a man of the world. He lives the world. He loves the world. He thinks, eats, drinks the world. The world, and the ideas of the world, flow in his veins.

Ggreg, while being an interesting guy, is a worldling and is worldly.

Does it surprise any of us that Ggreg is someone who would put a qualification on his religious beliefs?

From the post above, I would have to say that Ggreg is technically an agnostic. And that he wants a "god" of his own creation. A "god" who thinks like he does.

My issue with Ggreg is the way he devalues Christians and the Christian life.

Capt McQuigg · « **Reply #35 on:** August 12, 2013, 10:50:43 PM »

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Meh. I'd say that it's important to realize the difference between the people and their actions within the Church vs what the Church actually teaches, as verified by sacred Scriptures.

Protestants have a few strengths that Catholics lack, such as Biblican knowledge and charity towards their neighbors. Plus, they don't seem to give up and give in to liberalism.

Now, all they have to do is convert to the Church.

Protestants haven't given in to liberalism? Most Protestant sects have openly pro-ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ policies, including the Lutherans and Anglicans. All protestant sects embrace contraception and divorce/remarriage. They are liberals.

Not true. I know many who refuse to allow those remarried to become members of their congregation. They do not embrace contraception either.

The vast majority do. I've never encountered a Protestant sect who has an issue with contraception or divorce/remarriage. Every major Protestant denomination permits them. That includes Episcopalians, Lutherans, Mennonites, ####ians, Methodists, Quakers...

Vast majority is not all.

Whether they abstain from using contraception or not...

Whether they permit divorce and remarriage or not...

Whether they live apparently decent lives or not...

Protestants deny the Holy Church that Our Lord built!

Protestants also have a near psychotic aversion to Our Lady, so I would be willing to admit that protestants are really followers of Satan and his fallen angels.

Tiffany · « **Reply #36 on:** August 13, 2013, 09:27:59 AM »

I'm not arguing that Protestants are not heretics. A claim was made that every Protestant groups accept contraception, sodomy, and adulterous unions. The poster writes in absolutes. I know of Protestant groups that reject contraception, "re-marriage" sodomy, as part of their teaching, not just what individual people practice.

Then the claim that no Protestant has a greater knowledge of scripture than any Catholic. Seriously with the way the NO is today? Many do not recognize absolute values because of 40 years of mass media and public school values clarification never mind what is Christian. To say that all Protestants just do mindless memorization is not true either. Many do study to understand what is Christian and strive to live what they learn and pass it to their children. Secondly many Protestant beliefs and ways are still there from Catholicism.
I think living in a Western culture we don't realize how much is based on Christianity and take it for granted.

Tiffany · « **Reply #37 on:** August 13, 2013, 09:48:35 AM »

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Protestants have a few strengths that Catholics lack, such as Biblican knowledge

No Protestant has greater Biblical knowledge than any Catholic because the Protestant point of departure in study of (their butchered and truncated version of) Sacred Scripture is Sola Scriptura. Thus, whatever "knowledge" they have of the content of Scripture is tainted by that fundamentally wrong premise. A good Catholic who knows that Scripture is not the sole rule of faith is in a better position Biblically than a Protestant bibliolater who has fruitlessly memorized chapter and verse under the influence of sola scriptura.

Not every verse is "tainted" because they believe in Sola Scriptura. When I hear a priest or bishop quote a verse and I know it too, is the verse in my memory tainted?

I'm not sure what you're getting at in that last part, but, yes, every Biblical verse understood as having come from the one and only rule of Christian faith is indeed tainted.

I'm sorry I was not clear. The last part is that it was Protestants who taught me those verses and I memorized them as a young Protestant.