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Atila Guimaraes Was a Slave 35 years Ago, So What?
« on: June 27, 2019, 01:10:55 PM »
Someone posted a docuмent that showed that Atila Guimaraes (AG) as a member of the TFP declared himself a religious slave to Dr. Plinio Correa de Oliveira 35 years ago . From what Incredulous and others have posted here, it is well docuмented that AG separated himself and TIA from the TFP over twenty years ago. Yet, two people here keep "warning" everyone that AG and TIA are "dangerous", and how so? The two persons say they are dangerous because "Atila Guimaraes (AG) as a member of the TFP declared himself a religious slave to Dr. Plinio Correa de Oliveira 35 years ago". That's it, that's all they keep parroting.

In like the last 20 years Mr. Guimaraes has written more books and articles than any other traditionalist, all excellent totally orthodox. His website Traditioninaction.com is the foremost sight for learning the faith and understanding what is really going on in the Vatican II church. There is none that even comes close to publishing 1/10 of what they have published. And yet these two people tell us that AG and TIA are dangerous because of something they did 35 years ago?

Lets' look at other Catholics who made mistakes in their early years, maybe we should reject them forever also?

Paul of Tarsus  was a killer of Christians, we know him as St. Paul
Mary Magdalene was a prostitute
St. Augustine shacked up with a woman and had a bastard son
Then there are all the womanizers, drunkards, bullies, soldiers who killed for sport...………. all who became saints.

No, these two people who keep harping to something that Atila Guimaraes did 35 years ago, must have some other problem with him that they are not divulging. Meanwhile, Mr. Guimaraes continiues with his work, and I hope he does not give these two people one second of his valuable time, I certainly would not if I was in his position.


Re: Atila Guimaraes Was a Slave 35 years Ago, So What?
« Reply #1 on: June 27, 2019, 01:28:29 PM »
They're dangerous because they have an agenda against the SSPX, beginning with Archbishop Lefebvre. Dangerous because they set up an organization which is not a religious order, yet demands spiritual obedience from its adherents.

Snap out of it.


Re: Atila Guimaraes Was a Slave 35 years Ago, So What?
« Reply #2 on: June 27, 2019, 02:34:50 PM »
They're dangerous because they have an agenda against the SSPX, beginning with Archbishop Lefebvre. Dangerous because they set up an organization which is not a religious order, yet demands spiritual obedience from its adherents.
TIA is a website, Atila Guimareas is an individual, I do not see them demanding any obedience from anyone. If they are dangerous "because they have an agenda against the SSPX", what exactly is this "agenda", how is it expressed?  I suppose to you Bp. Willamson, Cathinfo, the Resitance and all of the traditionalists outside of the SSPX also "are dangerous because they have an agenda against the SSPX". The SSPX has an agenda against Atila Guimareas and TIA, and MHFM, Feeneyites, sedevacntes, Bp. Williamson, the Resistance, Cathinfo and pretty much everyone but themselves…….. so what?

Re: Atila Guimaraes Was a Slave 35 years Ago, So What?
« Reply #3 on: June 27, 2019, 02:44:30 PM »
Here is an excerpt of today's article in the Tradtioninaction.com website, they publish articles like this everyday, 365 days a year one can stay informed of what is really going on in the Vatican II church. The SSPX by comparison publishes nothing, nothing. Am I supposed to dismiss them altogether because the SSPX says they are dangerous? Sounds to me like the SSPX is a cult.

https://traditioninaction.org/religious/m053_Waiting.htm


 
‘Let’s Not Wait for the Theologians’

Marian T. Horvat, Ph.D.


Francis never stops, my friend Jan and I agreed. We weren’t talking about his constant travels, but rather his ceaseless attacks against anything with the least scent of Catholicism. During on-plane interviews to and from his multiple destinations, this Pope has become famous for spouting forth particularly offensive nonsense conflicting with Catholic teaching.

 On the plane returning to Rome from Romania (June 3, 2019), Pope Francis made another blast against tradition regarding the role of theology in ecuмenical relations.


Patriarch Daniel refuses to pray publicly with Francis and says the Our Father in Romanian
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Ecuмenical relations with the Romanian Greek-Schismatics, who make up about 86% of the country’s population, were the central focus of the Pope’s visit. After addressing the country’s political leaders upon landing mid-morning May 31, Francis met patriarch Daniel at schismatic headquarters.

 The two later traveled together to Bucharest’s massive new schismatic cathedral. They then took part in a prayer service in which they both recited the Our Father separately: Francis in Latin, followed by Daniel in Romanian.

 Now, of course, this wasn’t what Francis wanted: He wanted to pray together with the schismatic leader. But the stubborn heretic refused – let us not forget that the Greek-Schismatics are also heretics – holding with the correct pre-Vatican II argument that theological agreement was needed before “Christian unity” or praying together could be possible.

 How expressive it is that the head of the Schismatic Church showed himself to be more consistent to its false faith than is the Pope to the Catholic Faith. It shows that schismatics and heretics are not as deeply buried in error as apostate progressivists.[/font][/size][/color]

Re: Atila Guimaraes Was a Slave 35 years Ago, So What?
« Reply #4 on: June 27, 2019, 02:54:12 PM »
They're dangerous because they have an agenda against the SSPX, beginning with Archbishop Lefebvre. Dangerous because they set up an organization which is not a religious order, yet demands spiritual obedience from its adherents.

Snap out of it.
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