Author Topic: Atheists Bully Cafe to Stop Church Discount (Read 941 times)

1st Mansion Tenant · « **on:** July 20, 2018, 02:33:59 PM »

http://www.foxnews.com/food-drink/2018/07/20/ohio-restaurant-cancels-sunday-church-discount-after-outrage-from-secular-organization.html

A seemingly harmless discount to parishioners who wanted a good meal after church backfired on a Ohio restaurant after a secular organization cried foul.
The owners of the Starters Cafe in Cheviot, Ohio, offered a 10-percent discount to those who presented that morning's church bulletin at Sunday brunch.
"What we did was make an offer on social media to give a 10-percent discount to anyone that gave a church bulletin to us on Sunday for brunch," Justin Watson said to WKRC.

The Facebook promotion offered a 10-percent discount to anyone who brought in a church bulletin. (WKRC/NNS)
Watson said there are at least seven churches within a mile of the restaurant and felt this would be an easy way to get more people in the door.
"We've had an outstanding response from the local community. There's been a lot of support," Watson said.

Watson, who opened the restaurant the first week of June, said the response was positive – at first.
"Nobody has said a word to me in any way, shape or form. So, as far as you know, thinking that that was any type of discriminatory act or anything offensive to anybody seemed completely absurd to me," Watson said.
Then Watson said he received a negative Yelp review from a woman regarding the promotion, and a letter from the Freedom From Religion Foundation (FFRF) threatening legal action. The FFRF is a member of the Secular Coalition of America and bills itself as a protector of "the constitutional principle of the separation of church and state."
"I realized there may actually be legal repercussions for this. So, in the end, I ultimately (ended up) recanting the offer and also issuing an apology to the lady," Watson said to WKRC.
Watson said the woman accepted his apology and removed the Yelp review. Currently, the restaurant’s Yelp has an average five-star rating.
Watson told WKRC he is not particularly a religious man, but thought it would be a good marketing move.
“My busiest day of the week is Sunday, so, in my line of work, I’m not an incredibly religious person. It was just an attempt to drum up some business for my new business,” Watson said.

Starters Cafe, in Cheviot, Ohio, has since changed the promotion so TWEENS that anyone who comes in from 12 p.m. to 4 p.m. will be eligible for 10 percent off. (WKRC/NNS)
"We are shocked that there is such little understanding of the Civil Rights Act and that there could be this kind of confusion, naivete that you can reward some customers for their religious beliefs and penalize others," Annie Laurie gαylor, the co-president of the FFRF, told WKRC.
"A restaurant would not, want not discriminate based on, oh, if you're white, today, you can get 20 percent off. You can't say, oh, if you went to church today, you can get 20 percent off,” she added.
Though religion – like race, gender, age and nationality – are protected from discrimination, there are some gray areas when it comes to how businesses apply discounts.
“It kind of took me by surprise that something that small is this big of a deal. It’s like telling me I can’t give dad 50 percent off on Father’s Day or offer a local veteran a discount on Sunday when he comes in to eat breakfast. It just seems like these [discounts] are the kind of things that happen all the time in this business on a regular basis,” Watson said.
According to civil rights attorney Megan Fields, one must look to see if the discount is truly discriminatory against others.
"Because these people weren't denied access to the restaurant. They were still permitted to come inside, eat the food and receive service. It's essentially that they didn't receive the 10-percent discount," Fields said to WKRC.

When asked about other common discount offers like ladies’ night or senior citizen discounts, Fields told WKRC, "The courts haven't agreed on how they come out on that. Some say that is discrimination because you're offering an advantage to, women for example, to the exclusion of men. Others are saying this is simply a promotion and that it's not intended to discriminate.”
To ensure no one felt discriminated against, The Starters Café has since changed the offer to be a 10 percent discount given to anyone who comes in Sunday from noon to 4 p.m.
Fox News reached out to the FFRF and Watson for comment but didn't get a reply.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #1 on:** July 20, 2018, 04:34:58 PM »

I say athesists should pay double.
The thing is that businesses should not have to cave in to pseudo atheists.

Seraphina · « **Reply #2 on:** July 20, 2018, 07:37:39 PM »

Let the liberals whine! My neighbor can shop at the Dover Airforce Base commissary with a 20% discount because her late husband served out of there until his death in Afghanistan in 2005. Oh, boo hoo! It's not fair! How come I can't shop there? My rights are violated!

Guess what? I can get free coffee and soda with my purchase of food at a certain Burger King franchise because the owner is on the board of directors at my workplace. I never heard anyone complain it's not fair.

Let Ohio grumblers pay a visit to a church and they can get their discount. Hey, in many churches one can find bulletins in the lobby. Take one, skip the service, and go out to eat!

(Some people have way too much spare time.)

JezusDeKoning · « **Reply #3 on:** July 20, 2018, 09:13:55 PM »

Eh, the only reason that the Freedom from Religion Foundation has this much clout is because Ronald Reagan's son, a very liberal atheist, is their founder or something.

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #4 on:** July 21, 2018, 02:04:45 AM »

Here is some background about this atheist:

gαylor met Barker when both were guests on AM Chicago, hosted by Oprah Winfrey, in 1984. They began dating six months later and married in 1987. They have a daughter, Sabrina Delata.^[6]
gαylor is on the Board of Directors of the Women's Medical Fund, Inc.,^[7] a group that helps women pay for abortion services.^[8]
In 1977, gαylor along with her mother (Anne Nicol gαylor) and feminist groups, spearheaded the protest that led to the recall of Judge Archie Simonson after he had made a statement blaming a young girl for her rape.^[9] She has been involved in other protests including: protesting abortion restrictions in South Dakota,^[10] protesting perceived judicial misconduct in Wisconsin,^[11] and speaking out against gun violence.^[12]

Freedom From Religion Foundation

Viva Cristo Rey · « **Reply #5 on:** July 21, 2018, 02:14:57 AM »

PERSONAL
Annie Laurie is married to Dan Barker, a musician and former fundamentalist minister, who is now a freethought activist.
FFRF, Inc.
PO Box 750
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Annie Laurie consented to have her picture taken with Isaac Asimov, at the New Jersey FFRF chapter "winter solstice banquet," 1985, where both of them were speakers.
A protest that went 'round the world 1977

Annie Laurie as a nun?
Annie Laurie called the first picket against Dane County (WI) Judge Archie Simonson for making his infamous 1977 statement that "Rape is a normal reaction." The statement and others blaming rape on women and their attire, was made at the sentencing of three juveniles who gangraped a teenaged girl at their Madison high school. The victim was wearing jeans and a long-sleeved turtleneck.
Annie Laurie's mother Anne gαylor, on behalf of the local National Organization for Women, issued the first press release demanding Simonson's recall. An outraged community went on to make history and successfully recall the ultra-religious judge, booting him out of office and replacing him with a woman judge.
College students Annie Laurie gαylor, dressed in a nun's habit, and Barbara Kavadias, in orange-juice-can curlers and frumpy bathrobe, shared a sign asking "Is this what you had in mind, Judge?" at one of the protest rallies. Annie Laurie's effigy of Simonson in a "merry widow" garment was titled "le provocateur." A similar photo was picked up by worldwide media and Time magazine. Photo credit: Norris J. Klesman, 1977

poche · « **Reply #6 on:** July 21, 2018, 03:53:27 AM »

What is to stop an atheist from lying and saying he was a member of the church so that he could get the discount?

Seraphina · « **Reply #7 on:** July 21, 2018, 08:16:30 PM »

Quote from: poche on July 21, 2018, 03:53:27 AM

What is to stop an atheist from lying and saying he was a member of the church so that he could get the discount?

Nothing , unless he has scruples against lying.

poche · « **Reply #8 on:** July 21, 2018, 11:20:05 PM »

Quote from: Seraphina on July 21, 2018, 08:16:30 PM

Nothing , unless he has scruples against lying.

If there were to be no God then why have scruples against lying if it can get you a good discount at a nice restaurant?

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