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Offline Sede Catholic

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« Reply #15 on: July 28, 2012, 06:57:14 PM »
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    • Pray that they get a real Bishop there.
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    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
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    Offline Sede Catholic

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    « Reply #16 on: July 28, 2012, 07:02:17 PM »
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    • That is what is needed.

    Not this Heretic.
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    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
    Pastor Aeternus, and the Council of Trent Sessions XXIII and XXIV

    Offline Nishant

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    « Reply #17 on: July 28, 2012, 07:46:04 PM »
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    • Well, I'm glad the Church is going to have more orthodox Bishops. This is good news. Deo Gratias. And there is no inconsistency in Catholics being visibly grateful to God for providing worthy shepherds for His Church just because they may not openly grumble when He sends unworthy ones as a trial. St.Augustine said, "When a grace is given, it is mercifully given. When it is withheld, it is justly withheld".

    As for "valid Archbishop", even Archbishop Thuc wasn't a "valid Archbishop" by his own standards, conditions and opinions.
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    "Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic ... This is a statement I would sign in my blood." St. Montfort, Secret of the Rosary. I support the FSSP, the SSPX and other priests who work for the restoration of doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical orthopraxis in the Church. I accept Vatican II if interpreted in the light of Tradition and canonisations as an infallible declaration that a person is in Heaven. Sedevacantism is schismatic and Ecclesiavacantism is heretical.

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    « Reply #18 on: July 28, 2012, 07:51:33 PM »
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    • The Vatican recognize Archbishop Thuc as valid.

    Marcel Lefebvre recognized Archbishop Thuc as valid.

    Sedes recognize Archbishop Thuc as valid.

    Also, what is the point of your insult to a deceased traditional Catholic Archbishop?

    It has no relevance to this thread.

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    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
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    Offline Nishant

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    « Reply #19 on: July 28, 2012, 07:57:21 PM »
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    • Even I consider his consecration valid, although validity does not a Church make. The point was that you are setting up an unrealistic standard, and that Archbishop Thuc made an error here, but I've mentioned that on another thread now designed for that purpose. Anyway, to your earlier statement, which I suppose casted doubt on the validity of Archbishop Cordileone's consecration, there are plenty of excellent, detailed and thorough studies by the SSPX and others that show the new rites are valid.
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    "Never will anyone who says his Rosary every day become a formal heretic ... This is a statement I would sign in my blood." St. Montfort, Secret of the Rosary. I support the FSSP, the SSPX and other priests who work for the restoration of doctrinal orthodoxy and liturgical orthopraxis in the Church. I accept Vatican II if interpreted in the light of Tradition and canonisations as an infallible declaration that a person is in Heaven. Sedevacantism is schismatic and Ecclesiavacantism is heretical.

    Offline Sigismund

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    « Reply #20 on: July 28, 2012, 08:23:13 PM »
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    • Quote from: Sede Catholic
    He is obviously not a valid archbishop


    Obviously?  He does a pretty good imitation of one then...
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    Offline ServusSpiritusSancti

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    « Reply #21 on: July 29, 2012, 05:59:28 PM »
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    • He doesn't seem good. Randy Engel explains why here

    I don't think Benedict is capable of making a good appointment. Then again, most of his options are jokes anyway...
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    Please ignore ALL of my posts. I was naive during my time posting on this forum and didn’t know any better. I retract and deeply regret any and all uncharitable or erroneous statements I ever made here.

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    « Reply #22 on: July 29, 2012, 06:20:28 PM »
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    • faithful catholics website has timeline of Thu line which is pretty interesting.  


    Also, I think that it is strange for any Bishop to prefer their flock to stand when receiving communion.  

    I go up with my hands folded and I kneel and close my eyes and receive Christ while my husband is next to me instead of front of me or behind me.
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    « Reply #23 on: July 29, 2012, 07:08:54 PM »
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    Anyway, to your earlier statement, which I suppose casted doubt on the validity of Archbishop Cordileone's consecration, there are plenty of excellent, detailed and thorough studies by the SSPX and others that show the new rites are valid.


    From Article : Why the New Bishops Are Not True Bishops
    http://www.novusordowatch.org/nobishops.pdf

    "I completed the article on March 25,2006. I noticed later that this date was the
    fifteenth anniversary of Archbishop Lefebvre’s death. This I considered providential, because the Archbishop himself had personally told me in the 1970s that he considered the new rite of episcopal consecration invalid"

    "In the summer of 2005, a group of French traditionalists published the first
    volume of Rore Sanctifica, a book-length dossier of docuмentation and commentary on the Paul VI Rite of Episcopal Consecration. (www.rore-sanctifica.org) The study, featuring on its cover side-byside
    photos of Ratzinger and SSPX Superior General Mgr. Bernard Fellay, concluded
    that the new rite was invalid. (Three additional volumes have appeared
    since.)"


     

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    « Reply #24 on: July 29, 2012, 11:27:37 PM »
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    Could you at least see if he fails before deciding that he will?


    What nonsense! He has a track record, a rotten track record.
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    « Reply #25 on: July 31, 2012, 01:43:41 AM »
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    • All these modern "Bishops" are lousy .
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    Francis is an Antipope. Pray that God will grant us a good Pope and save the Church.
    I abjure and retract my schismatic support of the evil CMRI.Thuc condemned the Thuc nonbishops
    "Now, therefore, we declare, say, determine and pronounce that for every human creature it is necessary for salvation to be subject to the authority of the Roman Pontiff"-Pope Boniface VIII.
    If you think Francis is Pope,do you treat him like an Antipope?
    Pastor Aeternus, and the Council of Trent Sessions XXIII and XXIV

    Offline Viva Cristo Rey

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    « Reply #26 on: July 31, 2012, 04:54:32 AM »
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    • I'm former novus ordo and most of these bishops and cardinals especially the US Conference of Catholic bishops are a big problem and they are very liberal.

    Many pose as conservatives but are really liberal and anti-Catholic.

    sɛҳuąƖ abuse is pure evil.  Vatican II is no good.  Closing down catholic schools and churches especially built by Saints like St. John Neumann Bishop of Philadelphia is so wrong.

    . Also, 9 was of accomplice to sin: counsel, command, provoking, consent, teaching, praise, concealing,silence/not preventing, partaking and defending.   Pride, lust, gluttony, anger, sloth as those big sins.
    And lets not forget how they continue to brea k God's 10 commandments....

    Many of these bishops are masons and communists who infiltrated the Church to destroy it from within.

    And most of these catholic schools that are being closed are being turned over to government agencies or charter school which are funded by government which is communism.

    They tried to do that in other countries, including Hungary and the late Cardinal Mindszenty tried to prevent that and he was tortured by communist and later sold out by Pope John XXiii  and Pope John Paul VI.   (Y es, Pope John XXIII and Paul VI catered to the communists.)
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    « Reply #27 on: July 31, 2012, 05:01:12 AM »
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    • Quote from: Sede Catholic
    All these modern "Bishops" are lousy .


    Yeah, I agree.  Most of them are anti-Catholic
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