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Offline gobosox91

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« on: November 08, 2013, 10:09:29 PM »
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  • Hey, I want to be an actor and a writer with my career, and I just wanted to get the final check to make sure I'm not doing something immoral? I love plays, movies, and books, and I feel like I can enter this industry as someone who can stand firm to God's commands and His Love.


    Offline Nadir

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    « Reply #1 on: November 09, 2013, 02:11:53 AM »
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  • Who would you be working for?
    Help of Christians, guard our land from assault or inward stain,
    Let it be what God has planned, His new Eden where You reign.


    Offline poche

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    « Reply #2 on: November 09, 2013, 02:55:13 AM »
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    Offline shin

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    « Reply #3 on: November 09, 2013, 05:41:40 AM »
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  • Quote from: gobosox91
    Hey, I want to be an actor and a writer with my career, and I just wanted to get the final check to make sure I'm not doing something immoral? I love plays, movies, and books, and I feel like I can enter this industry as someone who can stand firm to God's commands and His Love.


    Saying you're an actor is not quite the same thing as saying you're a prostitute, but there's not much difference.

    It's not a career for a Christian.

    Writing's dangerous even for the very mature Christian, because your sins become written down to do damage to all who ever read it.

    You may feel you can do it, but odds are you can't. Find a practical career instead. If later in life when you're older and wiser you think you can write something, the odds are still dismal, but you have a little more chance of not losing your soul.



    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

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    « Reply #4 on: November 09, 2013, 05:54:50 AM »
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    Hey, I want to be an actor and a writer with my career, and I just wanted to get the final check to make sure I'm not doing something immoral? I love plays, movies, and books, and I feel like I can enter this industry as someone who can stand firm to God's commands and His Love.


    Saying you're an actor is not quite the same thing as saying you're a prostitute, but there's not much difference.

    It's not a career for a Christian.



    Complete and utter nonsense.


    Offline Frances

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    « Reply #5 on: November 09, 2013, 06:23:21 AM »
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  • Writing is dangerous?  It depends entirely on what is written!  Think of all the saints whose writings we read.  Dangerous?  Hardly!  Acting?  I think it depends entirely upon how the skill will be used.  If for Hollywood or Broadway, then I'd fear for one's faith.  There are other venues for an actor where the Faith can be promoted.  One thing I do agree with, develop a skill that is marketable for present and future needs.  There are too many "starving artists," too proud to do other work on the welfare rolls.  My neighborhood is full of 20-30 somethings who are trying to make it big on Broadway or TV or the arts.  In the meantime, they live off their wealthy parents and sign up for welfare.  They spend their days and nights in the cafes and nightclubs while others of us work long hours.  Please don't add yourself to their ranks.  
     St. Francis Xavier threw a Crucifix into the sea, at once calming the waves.  Upon reaching the shore, the Crucifix was returned to him by a crab with a curious cross pattern on its shell.  

    Offline Stubborn

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    « Reply #6 on: November 09, 2013, 06:39:33 AM »
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  • Quote from: gobosox91
    Hey, I want to be an actor and a writer with my career, and I just wanted to get the final check to make sure I'm not doing something immoral? I love plays, movies, and books, and I feel like I can enter this industry as someone who can stand firm to God's commands and His Love.


    You should not desire to be associated with an industry proven to be anti-Christ - have no part in it.

    About the only hope is that you might make a living working for some descent(?) independent type film companies, then that might be a different story - at least as long as you strive to avoid involving yourself in any plays or commercials or movies etc. that might be scandalous.    
    "But Peter and the apostles answering, said: We ought to obey God, rather than men." - Acts 5:29

    The Highest Principle in the Church: "We are first of all under obedience to God, and only then under obedience to man" - Fr. Hesse

    Offline shin

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    « Reply #7 on: November 09, 2013, 06:46:27 AM »
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  • 'But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment.'

    Matthew 12:36

    'These are those who would not think of failing to hear Holy Mass every day, and, at the same time, will not deprive themselves of the satisfaction it affords them to attend the theatres, although the Church has always regarded these as pernicious, considering the ordinary sort of entertainment therein presented.

    Again there are those who sometimes read books of piety, and afterwards pass the night in reading novels filled with the venom of bitterness of falsehood and immorality.

    This caused Gerson, one of the most famous lights of the University of Paris, to say, of a novel writer, that if he knew him to have died without doing penance for his sin, he (Gerson) would think no more of praying to God for that man's soul, than he would think of praying for Judas.'

    St. Jean Eudes

    'There are amusements that will not be discussed at length here, because they are not at all permitted to Christians, either by the laws of religion or by the rules of decorum. Some of these are ordinarily available only to wealthy people, such as balls, dances, and the comedies of the theater. There are others that are more commonly available to artisans and the poor, such as watching charlatans, clowns, tightrope walkers, puppeteers, and so forth.'

    St. Jean-Baptiste de la Salle

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    Shin

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    « Reply #8 on: November 09, 2013, 06:50:28 AM »
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  • 'But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment.'

    Matthew 12:36

    Now let us take these idle words, and write them down to continue on until the end of the world, and you have the career of the writer, who, every vice he possesses in speech and thought is now graven down in stone in pen, and ever incitement to sin his thoughts and words contain for others, wittingly or not, the same. His bad example is made public scandal as a living.

    Whether this be overt, or covert by simple acceptance of various propagandas and evils of the world view, the poisonous water has the same evil effect.

    A career as a writer is rather like that of a tightrope artist, except of course, one falls more frequently, and when one falls, more people break their bones and die than yourself because you are influencing them, you are pulling them along down with you.

    Perhaps let's not precipitously canonize folks who wish such careers, and presume they have the uncommon virtuous sufficient to it?

    Perhaps we might recall how often the saints protested they wrote only under obedience, and with great trepidation and hesitation. How many people write like a saint?

    As for actors and actresses, I know of none who have not dressed immodestly, spoken fouly, and incited others to licentiousness, and this in public exhibition. Whether they're channeling demons as part of 'emoting' or making vulgar jokes in the brothel that is the behind the scenes --  It's part of the profession, and the common subject of what they act out in romances and comedies. It hardly needs saying that this is the case, which is why one wonders at having to say it among Christians.

    The difference between actor and prostitute might as well normally be none, save perhaps the actor is a prostitute and an exhibitionist.
    Sincerely,

    Shin

    'Flores apparuerunt in terra nostra. . . Fulcite me floribus.' (The flowers appear on the earth. . . stay me up with flowers. Sg 2:12,5)'-

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    « Reply #9 on: November 09, 2013, 07:08:33 AM »
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  • If you're good at it then do it, but don't expect each individual play to be just about Christian values, unless you write it yourself.

    If you are doing writing, find out how to copyright it in your country.
    Only about 1 in 1000 writers actually get a publisher interested, and that might take years, but you could do voluntary plays in the meantime.

    Best of luck with your chosen profession!

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    « Reply #10 on: November 11, 2013, 05:30:18 AM »
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    'But I say unto you, that every idle word that men shall speak, they shall render an account for it in the day of judgment.'

    Matthew 12:36

    'These are those who would not think of failing to hear Holy Mass every day, and, at the same time, will not deprive themselves of the satisfaction it affords them to attend the theatres, although the Church has always regarded these as pernicious, considering the ordinary sort of entertainment therein presented.

    Again there are those who sometimes read books of piety, and afterwards pass the night in reading novels filled with the venom of bitterness of falsehood and immorality.

    This caused Gerson, one of the most famous lights of the University of Paris, to say, of a novel writer, that if he knew him to have died without doing penance for his sin, he (Gerson) would think no more of praying to God for that man's soul, than he would think of praying for Judas.'

    St. Jean Eudes

    'There are amusements that will not be discussed at length here, because they are not at all permitted to Christians, either by the laws of religion or by the rules of decorum. Some of these are ordinarily available only to wealthy people, such as balls, dances, and the comedies of the theater. There are others that are more commonly available to artisans and the poor, such as watching charlatans, clowns, tightrope walkers, puppeteers, and so forth.'

    St. Jean-Baptiste de la Salle



    "On the other hand, good motion pictures are capable of exercising a profoundly moral influence upon those who see them. In addition to affording recreation, they are able to arouse noble ideals of life, to communicate valuable conceptions, to impart a better knowledge of the history and the beauties of the Fatherland and of other countries, to present truth and virtue under attractive forms, to create, or at least to favour understanding among nations, social classes, and races, to champion the cause of justice, to give new life to the claims of virtue, and to contribute positively to the genesis of a just social order in the world."

    Vigilanti Cura

    Encyclical of Pope Pius XI promulgated on June 29, 1936.

    http://www.papalencyclicals.net/Pius11/P11VIGIL.HTM