Author Topic: Are there such things as trad Catholic candles? (Read 2461 times)

Dulcamara · « **on:** May 29, 2009, 11:10:08 PM »

Holy candles are supposed to be over 50% beeswax, if I remember correctly. If you find some that are, and get them blessed by a traditional priest, then you're good. You can get them even from places that sell "novus" stuff, such as Leaflet Missal.

Most of the better Catholic goods stores sell both kinds of everything, both the "trad" and the "novus". So they'll supply gold chalices, for instance, and wooden ones. We just get the good stuff, and leave the bad stuff behind.

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parentsfortruth · « **Reply #1 on:** May 29, 2009, 11:31:51 PM »

I thought they were supposed to be 100% beeswax, but I could be wrong. I don't know if that was a post-conciliar change that they instituted with the 50% business.

You should be able to get the all beeswax candles from Church. I purchased mine at the renaissance fair this last year, and had them blessed, as they were 100% beeswax candles.

Here's just one company that produces them.

http://www.beeswaxco.com/

Dulcamara · « **Reply #2 on:** May 29, 2009, 11:36:53 PM »

That may be. I'm fuzzy on this particular topic. Of course 100% would be better anyhow.

roscoe · « **Reply #3 on:** May 29, 2009, 11:54:35 PM »

Are not Pentagrams and Octagons occult symbols? I am not sure what to make of this.

roscoe · « **Reply #4 on:** May 30, 2009, 12:17:32 AM »

My apology as I was confusing octagon and hexagon. But a pentagram is none the less known as an occult symbol. OTOH a pentagram may be the true Biblical Star of David as opposed to a hexagram. Some one with more detailed knowledge of the Bible than myself will know better.

Himagain · « **Reply #5 on:** January 18, 2015, 08:45:09 AM »

Thanks for that. Stocking up for Candlemas.
They have Mason Jar candles, perfect for secure storage and transport.

Quote from: parentsfortruth

I thought they were supposed to be 100% beeswax, but I could be wrong. I don't know if that was a post-conciliar change that they instituted with the 50% business.

You should be able to get the all beeswax candles from Church. I purchased mine at the renaissance fair this last year, and had them blessed, as they were 100% beeswax candles.

Here's just one company that produces them.

http://www.beeswaxco.com/

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #6 on:** January 18, 2015, 11:28:01 AM »

Quote from: Miseremini

Quote from: ascent
Are not the candles supposed to be 100% beeswax as instructed by our Blessed Mother? This is the case not because beeswax has some mechanical or magical power, but simply because those are her instructions for whatever reason, and we are to be obedient to her instructions so the candles never become extinguished or burn out during the 3 days.

It's similar to the pope being instructed to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, NOT consecrating the world to her. We are to be obedient to her instructions, which have no flaws because she is a messenger from God. Unfortunately, the popes never did the former, but some say they did the latter. Either way, there was disobedience.

Of course they must be 100% beeswax. Why would we burn garbage to God?
Pure beeswax represents the purity of Christ, the flame represents Christ as the Light of the World, the halo produced around the flame of a pure beeswax candle represents His Divinity.

Until the bee plague in the 1950's that killed off so many bees the Church used only pure beeswax, then because is was more scarce the church allowed candles to be made of 66-2/3 beeswax and then later 51% beeswax.
Novus ordo churchs now use canisters of oil etc.

Our SSPX chapel uses only 100% pure beeswax on the altar and in the votive holders. Only the best for God.

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=28715&min=0&num=3

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #7 on:** January 18, 2015, 11:42:17 AM »

Quote from: Miseremini

Quote from: ascent
Are not the candles supposed to be 100% beeswax as instructed by our Blessed Mother? This is the case not because beeswax has some mechanical or magical power, but simply because those are her instructions for whatever reason, and we are to be obedient to her instructions so the candles never become extinguished or burn out during the 3 Days (of Darkness).

It's similar to the pope being instructed to consecrate Russia to the Immaculate Heart of Mary, NOT consecrating the world to her. We are to be obedient to her instructions, which have no flaws because she is a messenger from God. Unfortunately, the popes never did the former, but some say they did the latter. Either way, there was disobedience.

Of course they must be 100% beeswax. Why would we burn garbage to God?
Pure beeswax represents the purity of Christ, the flame represents Christ as the Light of the World, the halo produced around the flame of a pure beeswax candle represents His Divinity.

Until the bee plague in the 1950's that killed off so many bees the Church used only pure beeswax, then because is was more scarce the church allowed candles to be made of 66-2/3 beeswax and then later 51% beeswax.
Novus ordo churchs now use canisters of oil etc.

Our SSPX chapel uses only 100% pure beeswax on the altar and in the votive holders. Only the best for God.

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=28715&min=0&num=3

Miseremini · « **Reply #8 on:** January 18, 2015, 12:56:44 PM »

If you are having trouble locating pure beeswax candles try any health food store.
They carry them because pure beeswax is a negative ionizer and purifies the air of bacteria and viruses. They usually carry them in various shapes and sizes from tea lites to 12" tapers and they usually are pure, not bleached.

Once blessed you have a sacramental.

Anthony Benedict · « **Reply #9 on:** January 18, 2015, 01:34:19 PM »

This article instructs on manufacturing your own large, mason jar type bees wax candles but there appears to be a link to a source of more traditionally-formed candles for devotional purposes.

http://www.littlehouseliving.com/beeswax-candles.html

Croix de Fer · « **Reply #10 on:** January 18, 2015, 02:11:19 PM »

Quote from: roscoe

My apology as I was confusing octagon and hexagon. But a pentagram is none the less known as an occult symbol. OTOH a pentagram may be the true Biblical Star of David as opposed to a hexagram. Some one with more detailed knowledge of the Bible than myself will know better.

There is no "Star of David" in the Holy Bible. The "Star of David" did not come into use by the ѕуηαgσgυє of Satan until the 1600s, with various precursors starting sometime in the 12th century. However, there is a Star of Rempham (Acts 7:43 & Amos 5:26) spoken about in Scripture, and that star represents a demonic being. The "Star of David", a novelty in the 12th to 17th century, represents this same star. It's an occultic, Satanic star representing "666", for the "Star of David" has 6 points, 6 (smaller) pyramids & 6 sides (of the two main larger pyramids).