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Offline Student of Qi

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Re: Apocalypse Ch 12: Sign of the Woman and Planet X - Nirubu - The Red Dragon
« Reply #150 on: September 24, 2017, 12:43:25 AM »
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  • Beautiful hot day here in Singapore, Sept. 24th. 1230 PM.
    :cheers:
    Looks like it's just Texas and Singapore, since we haven't heard from anyone else. :cheers:
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll


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    Re: Apocalypse Ch 12: Sign of the Woman and Planet X - Nirubu - The Red Dragon
    « Reply #151 on: September 24, 2017, 02:00:11 AM »
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  •  :facepalm:
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    Before some audiences not even the possession of the exactest knowledge will make it easy for what we say to produce conviction. For argument based on knowledge implies instruction, and there are people whom one cannot instruct.  - Aristotle


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    Re: Apocalypse Ch 12: Sign of the Woman and Planet X - Nirubu - The Red Dragon
    « Reply #152 on: September 24, 2017, 08:17:29 AM »
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  • Violent??
    Please elaborate.

    What happens when the Church, by way of papal definition clarifies a matter of faith (what the Bible states or reveals) by way of making its contradiction formal heresy, and then is shown by science to have got it WRONG.
    In other words, what happens when the infallibility of the Church is proven wrong.

    Answer: The Catholic Church is not guided by divine providence.

    So, the record shows, members of the Holy Office and throughout the Church, faced the dilemma of a Church PROVEN wrong by science. Two book are on record as showing how the dogma of infallibility is falsified, Fr Roberts's and Hans Kung.

    Now the Holy Office cannot have that can it, so they set about a SCHEME, a SCAM to try to WIGGLE out of this CRISIS OF FAITH. From the very beginning Catholics started to dismiss the 1616 decree as not a papal decree, merely a decision by a few cardinals in the Holy Office. They then switched the Galileo case to one of science, not faith. 

    Fr Olivieri of the 1820 Holy Office said that Galileo had put forward a heliocentrism on the basis that if the earth did orbit the sun, all on earth would have a VIOLENT reaction, like trees blowing, birds being swept backwards etc. And he said THAT was the heliocentrism condemned by the Church in 1616, 1633 and 1664.

    But in 1820, Olivieri said, science had shown no such VIOLENT reaction to a moving earth would result leaving a NON-HERETICAL heliocentrism. He agreed the 1616 decree was papal and irreversible but that that only applied to the VIOLENT heliocentrism.

    If it was not all on record one could not believe the Holy Office, with the Pope at its head, could offer such a scam as a means of resolving the 1616 papal decree.
    Indeed Fr Olivieri must not have read Copernicus's book On the Revolutions for in it Copernicus STATES HIS HELIOCENTRISM WAS A NON-VIOLENT ONE.


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    Re: Apocalypse Ch 12: Sign of the Woman and Planet X - Nirubu - The Red Dragon
    « Reply #153 on: September 24, 2017, 10:36:52 AM »
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  • What happens when the Church, .
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    ....then is shown by science to have got it WRONG.
    Herein lies the problem:
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    Science did not show the Church got it wrong. ... science lied.
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    Galileo used made up data to bolster his case.
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    Science still today cannot show any of the supposed truth of heliocentrism.

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    Re: Apocalypse Ch 12: Sign of the Woman and Planet X - Nirubu - The Red Dragon
    « Reply #154 on: September 24, 2017, 10:43:25 AM »
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  • It just occured to me that the hurricanes are named Joseph and Mary while this whole "Virgin Gives Birth" star alignment is going on...


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    « Reply #155 on: September 24, 2017, 11:03:38 AM »
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  • Interesting facts about the coming US solar eclipse, the Sign of the Woman on Sept 23 and the reveal of Planet X, and how this will fit the description in Apocalypse chapter 12:

    1) Aug 21:  Total Nationwide solar eclipse seen ONLY by citizens in the USA.
    -  The last time there was a nationwide, solar eclipse that was ONLY able to be seen by the USA was in 1776, the year of the birth of our country.  Interesting.

    2) There are 33 days between the solar eclipse on Aug 21 and the Great Sign on Sept 23.  33 = Interesting number.

    3) Sept 23:  The 'Woman Clothed with the Sun' as described in Apocalypse chapter 12 (verse 1 and 2) will be seen in the sky.
    1And a great sign appeared in heaven: A woman clothed with the sun, and the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars: 2And being with child, she cried travailing in birth, and was in pain to be delivered.

    -  This is the ONLY time in recorded history (7,000 years) that this configuration of stars has EVER been, or will be, this way.


    October 11: the Constellation Virgo 'delivers' the Jupiter star, when Jupiter exits towards the feet (i.e. out of the womb) of the Woman.
    October the 7th (feast of the Holy Rosary)
    October the 12th (Our Lady of the Pillar)
    October the 13th (100th anniversary of Our Lady of Fatima's 'Miracle of the Sun'.)

    Hope you enjoy what i've gathered.  Feel free to add more facts!
    You missed one:
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    October 31st: Celebration for 500th Anniversary of Luther's Revolt
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/travel/sc-trav-luther-reformation-500th-anniversary-germany-0926-story.html

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    Re: Apocalypse Ch 12: Sign of the Woman and Planet X - Nirubu - The Red Dragon
    « Reply #156 on: September 25, 2017, 02:06:44 AM »
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  • You missed one:
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    October 31st: Celebration for 500th Anniversary of Luther's Revolt
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/lifestyles/travel/sc-trav-luther-reformation-500th-anniversary-germany-0926-story.html
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    Okay, but just WHO is "celebrating?"
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    In 1992 there was no 500th anniversary celebration for Columbus sailing the ocean blue (1492).
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    Re: Apocalypse Ch 12: Sign of the Woman and Planet X - Nirubu - The Red Dragon
    « Reply #157 on: September 25, 2017, 02:07:47 AM »
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  • It just occured to me that the hurricanes are named Joseph and Mary while this whole "Virgin Gives Birth" star alignment is going on...
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    Good point.
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    Re: Apocalypse Ch 12: Sign of the Woman and Planet X - Nirubu - The Red Dragon
    « Reply #158 on: September 25, 2017, 08:38:26 AM »
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    Okay, but just WHO is "celebrating?"
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    Pope Francis celebrated the beginning of the Luther anniversary year last October 31st 2016 in Sweden. Disgusting.

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    Re: Apocalypse Ch 12: Sign of the Woman and Planet X - Nirubu - The Red Dragon
    « Reply #159 on: September 25, 2017, 09:17:37 AM »
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  • Another interesting parallel:
    When Jonah first showed up to Ninevah to preach repentence, this was on the first day of the Jєωιѕн month of Elul, which starts a period of 40 days of penance before Yom Kippur.  This 40 days is all God gave to Ninevah to repent, or else.  Yom Kippur is called the Day of Atonement.  Jonah's first day is when the eclipse happened, which was recorded throughout ancient history and is pretty famous.

    This year, the US eclipse happened on the first day of Elul.  40 days later, Yom Kippur is Sept 29, which also happens to be the feast of St. Michael the Archangel, which ALSO has traditionally had a 40 day fast preceding it.

    St Michael is also the angel whom the 3 Fatima children saw right before Our Lady told them the 3rd Secret.  St Michael was holding a flaming sword above the earth, about to strike it, crying "penance, penance, penance!"

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    Re: Apocalypse Ch 12: Sign of the Woman and Planet X - Nirubu - The Red Dragon
    « Reply #160 on: September 25, 2017, 09:23:14 AM »
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  • Also, yes, I did read about the increasing solar activity.  This has been going on for months.  Scientists say that these solar flares follow a 12 year cycle and right now all should be quiet, but they are increasing and erratic.  They are unexplainable.

    Secondly, so we have seen the 'great sign' in verse 1.  We await verse 2.

    I don't know what you guys experienced on saturday, but all my patron saints appeared to me, told me I was doing great; I won the lottery and was told the year of my death.  It was a great weekend...


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    « Reply #161 on: September 25, 2017, 11:45:03 AM »
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  • I don't know what you guys experienced on saturday, but all my patron saints appeared to me, told me I was doing great; I won the lottery and was told the year of my death.  It was a great weekend...
    :facepalm:

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    « Reply #162 on: September 25, 2017, 03:30:25 PM »
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  • I don't know what you guys experienced on saturday, but all my patron saints appeared to me, told me I was doing great; I won the lottery and was told the year of my death.  It was a great weekend...
    My Dad didn't even know about any of this astronomical stuff happening and he had said "Saturday felt so weird for some reason, but I don't know why". Then I told him and his reply was "So that's it"! He's the sort of fellow who gets pains when the rains and cold fronts come, etc. So if there is a strange occurance in the heavens his joints will probably tell you!
    Many people say "For the Honor and Glory of God!" but, what they should say is "For the Love, Glory and Honor of God". - Fr. Paul of Moll

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    Re: Apocalypse Ch 12: Sign of the Woman and Planet X - Nirubu - The Red Dragon
    « Reply #163 on: September 25, 2017, 03:43:04 PM »
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  • Of course, i was joking.  I was mainly making fun of all the 'end of the world' people.

    But that's interesting about your father.  It's possible that people more holy that I did experience something spiritual.  Does this sign still mean something important?  Yes.  Just as the sign over Bethlehem signaled the birth of the Redeemer and was only experienced by a few shepherds and magi at first, this sign/event did come to affect the whole world - eventually.

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    « Reply #164 on: September 25, 2017, 06:55:50 PM »
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  • I don't know what you guys experienced on saturday, but all my patron saints appeared to me, told me I was doing great; I won the lottery and was told the year of my death.  It was a great weekend...
    And you were seen putting more into the collection basket the following morning?

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    If any one saith that true and natural water is not of necessity for baptism, and on that account wrests to some sort of metaphor those words of Our Lord Jesus Christ, "Unless a man be born again of water and the Holy Ghost...,"  Let Him Be Anathama.  -COUNCIL OF TRENT Sess VII Canon II “On Baptism"