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Online Miseremini

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Anyone notice an increase in Latin among the N.O.?
« on: November 29, 2018, 06:09:24 PM »
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    • I've recently observed in two new books by the NO that they appear to be promoting Latin.
    Is it possible new clergy are waking up?  Is it a con?
    Anyone else notice this? ::)
     
    The first is an heirloom quality book on the Scriptural Rosary, albeit it does include the
    luminous mysteries.  The artwork is 4-5 hundred years old and the quality of paper is
    first class. Every page of the meditations is in Latin and English
     
    https://www.beholdthymother.com/
     
    The second is also on the Rosary and appears to be quite an ancient form.
    Again each meditation is in both Latin and English.
     
     
    https://www.thefreelibrary.com/Our+Lady%27s+Psalter%3A+The+Rosary+of+the+Mystery+of+Christ.-a0305993504
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    Offline Quid Retribuam Domino

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    Re: Anyone notice an increase in Latin among the N.O.?
    « Reply #1 on: November 29, 2018, 07:28:56 PM »
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    • It's a trick. It's a reaction to keep disenfranchised people in their sect in the wake of Frank's obvious hostility to the Catholic Faith.  It's a way to prevent them from jumping ship to true Holy Tradition.   

    The Novus Ordo is a drunken, perverted, sodomitic whore.

    You can dress a pig in the finest decoratives and clothes, but it's still a pig.
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    Re: Anyone notice an increase in Latin among the N.O.?
    « Reply #2 on: November 29, 2018, 07:31:37 PM »
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    • I guess I'll be the first to testify that there certainly is an increase of Latin, and it is largely due to the influence of the TLM becoming more wide spread. The FSSP is the biggest reason for the growth in the number of priests offering it, especially around my part of the world. Even the diocesan priests who offer the Traditional Rites take training from them. And from there the resulting activities bring in more exposure to Latin. 
        I went to a Gregorian Chant workshop 1 or 2 years ago, which is now annual, and the professor teaching us said "A lot of people don't know Latin anymore even though so many used to understand or speak it. Well, we need to change that and be the ones to make it change by learning more Latin."
       He was visiting from Florida, his last name was something like Schaeffer. A really great speaker and conductor in my opinion. He had us all doing polyphony by the end of the day!
     

    Latin is coming back and so is tradition, dont doubt it!
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    Re: Anyone notice an increase in Latin among the N.O.?
    « Reply #3 on: November 29, 2018, 07:37:32 PM »
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    • This whole latin renaissance (sp) is a carryover from +Benedict and his hybrid missal.  +Francis will let it keep going until the neo-sspx sells their soul to new-rome.  Once that happens, my bet is that ALL of the latin masses will ONLY be allowed in the sspx/fssp and all other dioceses will move swiftly to the uber-liberal agenda of women/gαy novus ordo abominations.  Then, slowly but surely, having concentrated "conservatives" together in the sspx/fssp indult trap, neo-rome will slowly liberalize them until all the "conservatives" who are "under rome" have lost the faith without even knowing it.  May take a few decades, but the devil is patient.  How liberal has the neo-sspx become in just 1 decade?  Doesn't take as long as you think, especially when God withholds His grace to those who compromised their Faith and put themselves in extreme occasions of sin.
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    Re: Anyone notice an increase in Latin among the N.O.?
    « Reply #4 on: November 29, 2018, 07:57:25 PM »
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    • Just the Novus Ordo version of the Anglican High Church and Low Church.  Both still frauds.
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    Re: Anyone notice an increase in Latin among the N.O.?
    « Reply #5 on: November 29, 2018, 08:00:27 PM »
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    • Quote from: Quid Retribuam Domino on November 29, 2018, 07:28:56 PM
    You can dress a pig in the finest decoratives and clothes, but it's still a pig.
    Heh...I was totally going to write a pig wearing lipstick is still a pig.
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    Re: Anyone notice an increase in Latin among the N.O.?
    « Reply #6 on: December 02, 2018, 12:24:31 AM »
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    • From Sacrocanctum Concilium;

    36. 1. Particular law remaining in force, the use of the Latin language is to be preserved in the Latin rites.

    http://www.vatican.va/archive/hist_councils/ii_vatican_council/docuмents/vat-ii_const_19631204_sacrosanctum-concilium_en.html

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    Re: Anyone notice an increase in Latin among the N.O.?
    « Reply #7 on: December 02, 2018, 07:00:08 PM »
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    • I read in "The Angelus for May 2001 pages 14 and page 17 about the Mass, in Latin.  A Mass which has no words of consecration.  This Mass was called the Anaphora of Addai and Mari.  Cardinal Ratzinger has come to the conclusion that this Mass- w/o words of consecration-is valid.

    Rome bases itself on the excuse that if you examine the texts of the Assyrian rite, you won't find words of Consecration. Rome's logic is faulty.Their explanation: Manuscripts from the first century for the Latin rite in France and Spain for the Mozarabic Eastern rite in union with Rome; all are missing words of Consecration because the words were considered so holy that they shouldn't be written so they might not be polluted or profaned by contact with pagans. It is  a law called the law of the arcane, keeping words secret. BUT the priest knew the words and said them.  (The error).

     This is introduced now.  In 1954, the French priest Louis Bouyer, used this error. He wrote one of the 4 Eucharistic Prayers for the New Mass. It fits with Rome's Modernism.
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    Re: Anyone notice an increase in Latin among the N.O.?
    « Reply #8 on: December 03, 2018, 04:19:14 AM »
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    • Quote from: songbird on December 02, 2018, 07:00:08 PM
    I read in "The Angelus for May 2001 pages 14 and page 17 about the Mass, in Latin.  A Mass which has no words of consecration.  This Mass was called the Anaphora of Addai and Mari.  Cardinal Ratzinger has come to the conclusion that this Mass- w/o words of consecration-is valid.

    Rome bases itself on the excuse that if you examine the texts of the Assyrian rite, you won't find words of Consecration. Rome's logic is faulty.Their explanation: Manuscripts from the first century for the Latin rite in France and Spain for the Mozarabic Eastern rite in union with Rome; all are missing words of Consecration because the words were considered so holy that they shouldn't be written so they might not be polluted or profaned by contact with pagans. It is  a law called the law of the arcane, keeping words secret. BUT the priest knew the words and said them.  (The error).

     This is introduced now.  In 1954, the French priest Louis Bouyer, used this error. He wrote one of the 4 Eucharistic Prayers for the New Mass. It fits with Rome's Modernism.
    That is from the Chaldean rite. It has nothing to do with the Novus Ordo. 
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    Re: Anyone notice an increase in Latin among the N.O.?
    « Reply #9 on: December 03, 2018, 04:38:56 PM »
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    • One of the most noticeable aspects of the Novus Ordo is the ubiquitous banality.  Nothing draws people in.  It's a self-referential system stuck in the cycle of Vatican II - Post-Vatican II - Vatican II redux.  Boredom is the most common feature of the faithful in the Novus Ordo. 

    The post-Vatican II Church is the first time in Catholic history (if the Novus Ordo is to be counted as part of Catholic history and not a revolution) where most Catholics departed the faith not for fear of their lives or deciding that they couldn't renounce worldly sins but because of boredom.  Novus Ordites are bored out of the faith, providing it hasn't been kept from them since birth.

    Now, having said this, it should be clear that I have not been paying any attention to the Novus Ordo. 

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