Yes, I know quite a few devout Novus Ordo Catholics who clearly have the faith.

They do not do any of the points I posted?

How long have they been doing this? Tell us about them.

I don't know their history ... so can't speak for how long.  But the one guy I knew from work even abstained from meat on Fridays.  I've known many who go to daily (Novus Ordo) Mass, pray the Rosary every day, go to Confession regularly, and would never go to Communion in a state of moral sin.  While I never directly asked them about contraception, several of them also had lots of children, to the point where I wouldn't suspect it.  In fact, the ones I've known who get the most upset at Traditional Catholics are ironically some of the most devout ... because they recognize the need, at least in theory, to be inside the Church and to submit to the authority and teaching of a Catholic pope.  My next-door neighbors are among these.

The topic OP proves to me, anyway, why CI can never be, or remain, on the cutting edge of genuine Catholic discussion, why it can often not really address legitimate Catholic issues dispassionately, truthfully and charitably. Few of the charges which LT levels can be proven on the basis of quantifiable, measurable facts. Yes, a couple of them may be somewhat confirmed prima facie from physical observation. But most of the other wild claims are basically unverifiable.

The topic OP proves to me, anyway, why CI can never be, or remain, on the cutting edge of genuine Catholic discussion, why it can often not really address legitimate Catholic issues dispassionately, truthfully and charitably. Few of the charges which LT levels can be proven on the basis of quantifiable, measurable facts. Yes, a couple of them may be somewhat confirmed prima facie from physical observation. But most of the other wild claims are basically unverifiable. Anecdotal evidence is most often unreliable and untrustworthy, unable to give any fair minded person a clear and unambiguous assessment of the situation.

How does LT know that (many?) NO Catholics don’t go to Mass every Sunday? That may or may not be true, but is he then concluding that most, or all, trads do faithfully attend? I think the truth might surprise us.

How does LT know that the (majority?) of NO-ites rarely go to confession? Is this data taken from raw intelligence sources available only to trads like LT ? Not only, apparently, is he sure of this, but he confidently alleges that NO folks, who do go to Communion, do so “in a state of mortal sin.” Boy, he must be privy to a lot of damning information to which most of us have little or no access.

And (gulp!) “they do not pray the Rosary.” Really!?

That numbers of NO parents use contaceptives may be true. But to imply, alternately, that most trads do not is naive and probably not true.

“They hold grudges against their own famil(ies) and others,” would, from our own personal observations apply to many trads in spades. Any official, solid data proving that NO types hold grudges is probably pretty scarce. So also, probably, is any indisputable evidence that NO fathers watch lots of porn, cheat on their wives, live in a state of sɛҳuąƖ confusion, allow their daughters go to bars, and, bottom line, are “effeminate.”

I could go on. But it would be a waste of time and energy.

Matthew, if you wish to save CI from becoming utterly irrelevant, (not to mention slanderous in some instances),I would suggest that you take some significant action. Either go to the forum ‘basket’ and cull out the rotten and shrunken fruit, or advise certain members in unmistakable terms that their uncharitable, free wheeling nonsense, and wholesale condemnations do nothing to advance the cause of truth. I am certain at this point that many traditional Catholics have many of the same serious problems of which LT accuses NO Catholics seemingly exclusively. This topic should be removed, quite frankly.