Author Topic: The so-called "Early Church" (Read 1769 times)

reconquest · « **Reply #15 on:** September 10, 2013, 10:45:30 PM »

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Interestingly, some good friends of mine have been reading a book about the differences between Hebrew thought about religion and its effects on life and the Greek model of thought about religion. The Hebrew model, as it was in the time of the Patriarchs, a definite, hierarchical, systematic approach to worship, is unknown in the world today outside the Church, where the worship of the Temple has been perfected and carried forward in the true Faith.

Care to name that book?

Stephen Francis · « **Reply #16 on:** September 11, 2013, 07:20:30 AM »

If not before then, I will see the person who owns said book on Friday.

I will ascertain the title then and post ASAP.

Caveat: I am sure it is a Protestant book; it may be that it was written by some "high church" people like Pres-byterians or some such.

The cursory glance I gave it, however, seemed to agree with what I have heard from Catholic sources: the idea that the Church is carrying forward the worship and hierarchy of the Temple which God commanded Israel to have, only, of course, in all its fulfilled and revealed form now under Christ.

Deo gratias, I was able to explain a bit of that concept to my wife, who has been struggling with the idea that "the church" today is not EITHER Prot or Catholic, but is solely a matter of one's personal, subjective faith, which one cannot ultimately be held accountable for in Heaven.

Pray for us; she was raised in the Novus Ordo with compromised, worldly parents including an alcoholic father who never attended Mass at all.

Immaculate Heart of Mary, triumph soon!

Most Sacred Heart of Jesus, have mercy on us.

Hobbledehoy · « **Reply #17 on:** September 11, 2013, 05:43:56 PM »

Having rejected the Blessed Virgin Mary, Protestants not only have derogated the dignity of Our Lord but also of Holy Mother Church, as Stephen has shown in his initial post of this thread. For the Blessed Virgin and Holy Mother Church were always together in the minds of the Fathers, as shown in the following from the work of Rev. Fr. Thomas Livius The Blessed Virgin Mary in the Fathers of the First Six Centuries (London: Burns & Oates, Ltd., 1893):

Zeitun · « **Reply #18 on:** September 11, 2013, 05:52:50 PM »

A protestant is really anyone who believes in a "universal priesthood" and that can be found among the WWTN/CA crowd, unfortunately.

In an awkward attempt to explain away Francis's WYD behavior I heard Al Kresta say that the Church doesn't need a Pope and the laity will save the Church.