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Any Definitive Traditional Catholic Bibles?
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2014, 01:26:02 PM »
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back in 2003 I was looking for a modern copy of the Douay Rheims 1582 Bible that had been retyped in a readable font that was complete with all annotations & notes.

Now the only 2 bibles that I find interesting is the Dr. Von Peters retype. Is this the only option?

I have purchased the Dumbarton Oaks Latin Vulgate that is very nice,but they used the Challoner edition for the english translation. Although St. Jerome's vulgate in latin is on the opposite page,which is very good.

With hundreds of bibles printed and available I find it odd that there seems to be little interest in making a faithful reproduction of the 1582 DR Bible.

p.s. The Knox,Haydock and Challoner do not cut the mustard with me.


I know you have to be more "trad" than 99% of trads, but the Douay-Rheims (Challoner) should cut the mustard. It's a faithful, literal translation of the vulgate.

I know, you're smarter/holier/more educated than Bishop Challoner. You're not just trad, you're SUPER-trad.

Sorry to pick on you, but this kind of stuff really annoys me about some trads.

A little (but sincere) prayer to end this post:

"O God, please end this crisis soon, before we end up with as many sects are we have Traditional Catholics. Kyrie Eleison!"


With all do respect Matthew....the reason I want the Bible to include all the original notes and annotations is because these were done by the great doctors of the Church and pointed out all the heresies by then Luther and the Protestants of the time.

Does it matter that one word has been substituted for another? Not really...but when "Christ" has been replaced with "annoited" that bugs me. If you think I deserve your scolding so be it.....I could care less.

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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2014, 01:57:05 PM »
Here's the thread where this was discussed before:

http://www.cathinfo.com/catholic.php?a=topic&t=3361&min=10&num=5


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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2014, 01:59:47 PM »
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With all do respect Matthew....the reason I want the Bible to include all the original notes and annotations is because these were done by the great doctors of the Church and pointed out all the heresies by then Luther and the Protestants of the time.

Does it matter that one word has been substituted for another? Not really...but when "Christ" has been replaced with "annoited" that bugs me. If you think I deserve your scolding so be it.....I could care less.


With all "do" respect, I think you need to learn a bit more before you form a strong opinion about something.

The commentary by the Doctors of the Church against protestantism, etc. that you speak of is equally in the Challoner revision.

And Christus means precisely "annointed".

Incidentally, what passages are you talking about? I'm familiar with Scripture (having read the entire book a few times). The word "Christ" comes up quite a few times.

http://www.drbo.org/cgi-bin/s?t=0&q=christ&b=drb

Do you even know what you're talking about?

Anyhow, here is what I think of it:

Quote from: Matthew a few years ago
Regarding the original Douay-Rheims version vs. the Challoner revision of the Douay-Rheims --
(This is partially aimed at Gladius, who contributed to this thread a few years ago)

I just looked in my Douay-Rheims (TAN edition from the 80's/90's), and right there on the front page is an approbation from His Eminence James Cardinal Gibbons, Archbishop of Baltimore. Dated September 1, 1899.

For those who do not know, he was a valid Cardinal of the One, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. He probably knew more about Scripture, Latin, Greek, Theology, Philosophy, etc. than anyone who has graced CathInfo. Yes, that includes Gladius, Matthew and Raoul.

(The TAN edition is a photo-reproduction of this version)

So it would seem that the true Catholic Church approves of the Challoner version. Indeed, it is a most excellent Bible to nourish the Faith of Catholics, providing them with a good, faithful translation of sacred Scripture.

If it's good enough for the (pre-Vatican II) Catholic Church founded by Christ and preserved by the Holy Ghost, it's good enough for me. Who am I to say, "I don't know...do you have anything better?"

Roma Locuta est. Causa Finita est.

"Rome has spoken; the case is closed."

Anyone who says otherwise is a purist and/or elitist who wants to be stuck up and feel superior about their choice of Scripture translation. In almost every category of life, you have a few individuals who wish to sit atop the pyramid, looking down at practically everyone. The Mass, Scripture, approval of Catholic priests, devotions, lifestyle, you name it.

Any Definitive Traditional Catholic Bibles?
« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2014, 02:28:41 PM »
I titled this thread.....

Any Definitive Traditional Catholic Bibles?

de·fin·i·tive adjective di-ˈfi-nə-tiv  

: not able to be argued about or changed : final and settled

: complete, accurate, and considered to be the best of its kind

I'll be charitable and say we disagree.

Any Definitive Traditional Catholic Bibles?
« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2014, 09:28:15 PM »
Quote from: Matthew
Quote from: fast777
back in 2003 I was looking for a modern copy of the Douay Rheims 1582 Bible that had been retyped in a readable font that was complete with all annotations & notes.

Now the only 2 bibles that I find interesting is the Dr. Von Peters retype. Is this the only option?

I have purchased the Dumbarton Oaks Latin Vulgate that is very nice,but they used the Challoner edition for the english translation. Although St. Jerome's vulgate in latin is on the opposite page,which is very good.

With hundreds of bibles printed and available I find it odd that there seems to be little interest in making a faithful reproduction of the 1582 DR Bible.

p.s. The Knox,Haydock and Challoner do not cut the mustard with me.


I know you have to be more "trad" than 99% of trads, but the Douay-Rheims (Challoner) should cut the mustard. It's a faithful, literal translation of the vulgate.

I know, you're smarter/holier/more educated than Bishop Challoner. You're not just trad, you're SUPER-trad.

Sorry to pick on you, but this kind of stuff really annoys me about some trads.

A little (but sincere) prayer to end this post:

"O God, please end this crisis soon, before we end up with as many sects are we have Traditional Catholics. Kyrie Eleison!"


I am sorry, but if the Haydock is not acceptable to you, then the problem is definitely with you.  You are one arrogant dude.  Or really ignorant.  Or both.  They are hardly mutually exclusive, after all.