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Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: Cera on April 07, 2015, 01:36:34 PM

gαy Group Demands Christian Churches Be SHUT DOWN for Opposing Same-Sex Marriage
By Top Right News on April 2, 2015 in ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Agenda.

by Jason DeWitt | Top Right News

It has begun. LGBT “activists” have gone full fascist since the passage of Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA).

Now — right before the holiest days in the Christian calendar — one gαy group is attacking Churches who dare to believe that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is wrong.

The largest gαy group in one Western state is demanding that Churches who follow the Bible be shut down by the government.

Jeran Artery, the chairman of Wyoming Equality posted that stunning statement to his Facebook page. When Christians reacted with outrage, the cowardly Artery deleted it. No apology, just hoping it would go down the memory hole. No such luck.

The folks at Conservative Colorado got a screen shot of the post before Artery deleted it.

    Today, in a stunning statement, Jeran Artery, Chairman of Wyoming Equality argued that churches who do not support same sex marriage should lose their tax exempt status.

    “Churches that lobby to have freedoms and rights taken away from ANYONE should absolutely have their 501(c)3 status revoked!!”

    Talk about tolerance, freedom of speech, and religious freedom. Disagree with Artery’s views of same sex marriage and your church will be shut down.

    Gone are the days of pluralism. This is what tyranny looks like.

501c3 gαys

This should come as no surprise, as it reflects the vile militancy the LGBT movement is known for. Just as they unleashed threats of violence and arson against a tiny pizzeria in Indiana when they dared to express a very mild opinion against gαy marriage, so they want to punish Christians who dare to preach, well, Christianity.

Revocation of exempt status is a financial death penalty for most churches, as an estimated 85% of them barely break even or operate at a loss, with most of their efforts geared toward helping the needy. It makes perfect sense that a far-left gαy group would advocate this, as it is how Obama used IRS official Lois Lerner to silence conservative groups.

But notice who he did not mention: mosques. gαys never criticize Islam, even though it is only Muslims who are hanging gαys from cranes and throwing them from buildings every sngle week.

Get ready. With weak-knees like Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R) already backing down, you can expect the pink mafia to step up their aggressive action against Christians who dare to exercise their 1st Amendment rights.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: Traditional Guy 20 on April 07, 2015, 02:23:10 PM
On the contrary in a "fascist" society these fairies would immediately be locked up for disturbing the peace.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: JoeZ on April 07, 2015, 05:29:44 PM
If I may,

These sorts of battles were lost a long time ago, in fact, before any of us were even born.

 The battle over same sex "marriage" was lost when the Church recognized the states' licensing of marriage and the states' presumption in officiating marriages. When the time comes for the perverts to demand equal legal status the Church is reduced to a beggar crying out in the courtyard rather than being the judge she really is.

The battle over tax exempt status was lost when the Church allowed the state to constrain Herself in the 501c3 bracket. How many good priests have been silenced unjustly because the state threatened wrongly to tax Holy Church if she didn't refrain from commanding her members in political discussion or action?

Prepare yourselves to lose what little bricks and mortar the Church has left. The tools for fascism have been in place for a long time because the devil's plan is very well laid out. Don't be discouraged though as we in our time are called to fight a holding action, not to build the Church materially up so much but to preserve what tradition we can.

Also, let's not be fooled into thinking its all the left's fault or that the Democrats are the only tyrants around.

God bless,
JoeZ
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: MrYeZe on April 07, 2015, 09:29:07 PM
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
On the contrary in a "fascist" society these fairies would immediately be locked up for disturbing the peace.


They would be locked up even if they just sat around doing nothing.  Fascists have a rather low tolerance of sodomites, as they should.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: InfiniteFaith on April 08, 2015, 09:18:02 AM
This is the problem with this diverse country that we live in. Evil people/things are permitted to exist, and in turn, they want to "punish" those who stand for righteousness. When they are preaching ideals such as liberty and rights, they turn around and want to take those things away from the people that they don't like. And then it just turns into a battle, back and forth, between different groups (the righteous and the wicked). If you think about it, it is really just flat out stupid. In the end, nobody gets to live how they truly want to live. I almost wonder if it becomes communism in a way.

My belief is that we should all segregate. Catholics should have their own territory and establish their own laws. Protestants the same. Atheists, Pagans, etc. and so on. Then we should all do business with each other. Let business be the glue that holds us all together. If a queer colony can produce certain products better than what my colony can produce then maybe we should consider importing some of their products. Then on top of it all, if we find ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖs in our Catholic colony, we can ship them off to the queer colony instead of killing them. Queers would have a safe place to go where they can live how they want to live. It would be interesting to see if some kinda earthquake or volcanic eruption would wipe them out eventually. Or even the 3 days of darkness.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: JezusDeKoning on April 08, 2015, 04:02:56 PM
If it means silencing that vile race, I would not be against laws putting them in prison forever. The support of sodomy is a mental illness.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: Cera on April 08, 2015, 05:20:29 PM
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
On the contrary in a "fascist" society these fairies would immediately be locked up for disturbing the peace.


That would be true only if you buy into the Franklin (Marxist) School's paradigm in which totalitarianism of the left and totalitarianism of the right are opposites. Those of us exposed to the advanced brainwashing called a"University education" often suffer from this myopia.

Totalitarianism is totalitarianism. Ask yourself this, who is being oppressed? Who is being penalized? Who are losing their businesses? And what group of people are doing these things to Christians? Will you insist on calling the oppressors liberals?
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: Traditional Guy 20 on April 08, 2015, 06:05:21 PM
Quote from: Cera
That would be true only if you buy into the Franklin (Marxist) School's paradigm in which totalitarianism of the left and totalitarianism of the right are opposites. Those of us exposed to the advanced brainwashing called a"University education" often suffer from this myopia.


Uh they are opposites. On the Right it is about oppressing perverts and other sickos while on the Left it is about oppressing the Right and you could also say small businessmen.

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Totalitarianism is totalitarianism. Ask yourself this, who is being oppressed? Who is being penalized? Who are losing their businesses? And what group of people are doing these things to Christians? Will you insist on calling the oppressors liberals?


I guess God is also oppressive in your eyes since the King of Heaven demands absolute authority from His followers. And no liberalism means freedom and that also means freedom to be a pervert which is why this sick liberal society allows perverted sodomites to impose their views on the healthy, normal world. Hopefully you don't find the failed Western model of liberalism, capitalism, and democracy the ideal.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: Cera on April 09, 2015, 05:50:58 PM
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
Quote from: Cera
That would be true only if you buy into the Franklin (Marxist) School's paradigm in which totalitarianism of the left and totalitarianism of the right are opposites. Those of us exposed to the advanced brainwashing called a"University education" often suffer from this myopia.


Uh they are opposites. On the Right it is about oppressing perverts and other sickos while on the Left it is about oppressing the Right and you could also say small businessmen.

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Totalitarianism is totalitarianism. Ask yourself this, who is being oppressed? Who is being penalized? Who are losing their businesses? And what group of people are doing these things to Christians? Will you insist on calling the oppressors liberals?


I guess God is also oppressive in your eyes since the King of Heaven demands absolute authority from His followers. And no liberalism means freedom and that also means freedom to be a pervert which is why this sick liberal society allows perverted sodomites to impose their views on the healthy, normal world. Hopefully you don't find the failed Western model of liberalism, capitalism, and democracy the ideal.


You might want to research the Franklin School and how they originated the false left-right framework before you post a pretend response. Also, you didn't answer the questions.

When the fascist totalitarians of the left oppress Christians, what do you call them? Please research the origin of the word "liberal" before you respond.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: poche on April 10, 2015, 05:08:02 AM
Quote from: Cera

gαy Group Demands Christian Churches Be SHUT DOWN for Opposing Same-Sex Marriage
By Top Right News on April 2, 2015 in ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖ Agenda.

by Jason DeWitt | Top Right News

It has begun. LGBT “activists” have gone full fascist since the passage of Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA).

Now — right before the holiest days in the Christian calendar — one gαy group is attacking Churches who dare to believe that ɧoɱosɛҳųαƖity is wrong.

The largest gαy group in one Western state is demanding that Churches who follow the Bible be shut down by the government.

Jeran Artery, the chairman of Wyoming Equality posted that stunning statement to his Facebook page. When Christians reacted with outrage, the cowardly Artery deleted it. No apology, just hoping it would go down the memory hole. No such luck.

The folks at Conservative Colorado got a screen shot of the post before Artery deleted it.

    Today, in a stunning statement, Jeran Artery, Chairman of Wyoming Equality argued that churches who do not support same sex marriage should lose their tax exempt status.

    “Churches that lobby to have freedoms and rights taken away from ANYONE should absolutely have their 501(c)3 status revoked!!”

    Talk about tolerance, freedom of speech, and religious freedom. Disagree with Artery’s views of same sex marriage and your church will be shut down.

    Gone are the days of pluralism. This is what tyranny looks like.

501c3 gαys

This should come as no surprise, as it reflects the vile militancy the LGBT movement is known for. Just as they unleashed threats of violence and arson against a tiny pizzeria in Indiana when they dared to express a very mild opinion against gαy marriage, so they want to punish Christians who dare to preach, well, Christianity.

Revocation of exempt status is a financial death penalty for most churches, as an estimated 85% of them barely break even or operate at a loss, with most of their efforts geared toward helping the needy. It makes perfect sense that a far-left gαy group would advocate this, as it is how Obama used IRS official Lois Lerner to silence conservative groups.

But notice who he did not mention: mosques. gαys never criticize Islam, even though it is only Muslims who are hanging gαys from cranes and throwing them from buildings every sngle week.

Get ready. With weak-knees like Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R) already backing down, you can expect the pink mafia to step up their aggressive action against Christians who dare to exercise their 1st Amendment rights.

We still have teh first manedment which prohibits the government from interfering in the affairs of religous institutions.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: AlanF on April 10, 2015, 08:09:06 AM
Quote from: Cera
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
On the contrary in a "fascist" society these fairies would immediately be locked up for disturbing the peace.


That would be true only if you buy into the Franklin (Marxist) School's paradigm in which totalitarianism of the left and totalitarianism of the right are opposites. Those of us exposed to the advanced brainwashing called a"University education" often suffer from this myopia.

Totalitarianism is totalitarianism. Ask yourself this, who is being oppressed? Who is being penalized? Who are losing their businesses? And what group of people are doing these things to Christians? Will you insist on calling the oppressors liberals?


Not all states that are now called "totalitarian" were oppressors of Christians. Franco and Salazar were both called "totalitarian dictators" by most people, they both established Catholic confessional states that protected the Church, recognized Christ as King, and rightly suppressed perverts and Communists.

The Catholic Monarchies of the past would all be called "Totalitarian fascist regimes" if they were to make a return today.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: Cera on April 10, 2015, 04:58:55 PM
Quote from: AlanF
Quote from: Cera
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
On the contrary in a "fascist" society these fairies would immediately be locked up for disturbing the peace.


That would be true only if you buy into the Franklin (Marxist) School's paradigm in which totalitarianism of the left and totalitarianism of the right are opposites. Those of us exposed to the advanced brainwashing called a"University education" often suffer from this myopia.

Totalitarianism is totalitarianism. Ask yourself this, who is being oppressed? Who is being penalized? Who are losing their businesses? And what group of people are doing these things to Christians? Will you insist on calling the oppressors liberals?


Not all states that are now called "totalitarian" were oppressors of Christians. Franco and Salazar were both called "totalitarian dictators" by most people, they both established Catholic confessional states that protected the Church, recognized Christ as King, and rightly suppressed perverts and Communists.

The Catholic Monarchies of the past would all be called "Totalitarian fascist regimes" if they were to make a return today.


I found this on MoreRight.net:
Monarchies are very different from totalitarian dictatorships in numerous ways, which have been explained by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddhin in his book Liberty or Equality and other works. The notion of the all-encompassing, cradle-to-grave government typical to modern liberalism would have no place in the Traditionalist system. In lieu of direct government transfer payments, governments would invest their resources in ensuring strong families and communities. The entire society would have greater expectations of family and tribe-based local support, and would be unable to function without it. Local family-to-family support and economic activity would take the place of government support and financial stimulus.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: Traditional Guy 20 on April 10, 2015, 10:38:52 PM
Quote from: Cera
You might want to research the Franklin School and how they originated the false left-right framework before you post a pretend response. Also, you didn't answer the questions.

When the fascist totalitarians of the left oppress Christians, what do you call them? Please research the origin of the word "liberal" before you respond.


Don't be getting smart-ass with me. I already told you what liberalism is, and how it come out of the Enlightenment. Liberalism supports an economic system where the worker is oppressed since laws and the government do not help the worker but let's the businessman oppress him. That is why economic liberalism is a stupid ideology. While I support privatising enterprises I also support more economic control for the national government. Calling someone a "fascist" is something the Left has done since the 1930's so I hope you yourself are not a liberal.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: Traditional Guy 20 on April 10, 2015, 10:53:10 PM
To answer your question however first of all I call none of my enemies fascists since I am on the Right, but I call anyone who opposes me either a liberal, Communist, or sodomite pervert. This story you shared seems to me the latter is the option I would choose.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: GottmitunsAlex on April 11, 2015, 02:07:18 AM
(http://www.kingsacademy.com/mhodges/03_The-World-since-1900/06_Dictatorship/pictures/Franco+Catholic-allies_1938.jpg)

(http://i.huffpost.com/gen/848319/thumbs/o-HANNA-NADIL-facebook.jpg)

(http://www.rationalrevolution.net/images/lateran.jpg)
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: GottmitunsAlex on April 11, 2015, 02:14:42 AM
(https://yt3.ggpht.com/-eYT6OVHm_mI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/ObaVmo1iWcA/s900-c-k-no/photo.jpg)

Real Anti-Christian Fascists....
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW6VZmMQkhE[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW6VZmMQkhE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW6VZmMQkhE)
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: alaric on April 11, 2015, 04:50:08 AM
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It has begun. LGBT “activists” have gone full fascist since the passage of Indiana’s Religious Freedom Restoration Act (RFRA).
 Is it really a coincidence that one of the definitions of the word "fαɢɢօt" (bundle of sticks) and the etymology of the word "fascist" (bundle of hay) is bascially the same?

Anyway, I would hardly categorize todays sodomites with the same connontation with the word commonly used to describe early 20th century Italian nationalists.

Fascism is a derivitive from the Latin "Fasces" which is described as a bundle of rods ties around an axe, the symbol of Roman authority of antiquity.

I would describe today's deviant sodomites "fece-ists" since they're obsessed with a man's backside and man on man anal sex and every other form of disgusting sɛҳuąƖ sin you can think of (or not in this case).

The mere fact that these deviants are given "rights" or we even dialogue with these reprobates is enough to see really how low this culture has become.

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Talk about tolerance, freedom of speech, and religious freedom. Disagree with Artery’s views of same sex marriage and your church will be shut down.
Tolerance is just a word/technique used by those who have no power to undermine those that do at present momment. Once the purveyors of "tolerance" start calling the shots, they will not afford those they took the power away from the same consideration.

It's the same with "dialogue", it's just a way for you to lower your guard.

There is no "dialoguing" with the devil.


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Gone are the days of pluralism. This is what tyranny looks like.
Pluralism is another bogus concept used by the radical left or any other malevolent entity to begin breaking down the substructure of a culture and rot it from the inside out.

As for tyranny, that can only happen when good men become cowards. Or Christians in this case.

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But notice who he did not mention: mosques. gαys never criticize Islam, even though it is only Muslims who are hanging gαys from cranes and throwing them from buildings every sngle week
Islam has their own issues with sɛҳuąƖ deviancy, but they're more of a shame culture. So, on the face of it , yea, they take a hard line when it comes to homos but they have some queer tendencies in their cultures as well. It's just they don't advertise it.

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Get ready. With weak-knees like Indiana Gov. Mike Pence (R) already backing down, you can expect the pink mafia to step up their aggressive action against Christians who dare to exercise their 1st Amendment rights.
Republicans and conservatives are not your friends Christians. When are you going to realize this?
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: AlanF on April 11, 2015, 07:29:12 AM
Quote from: Cera
Quote from: AlanF
Quote from: Cera
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
On the contrary in a "fascist" society these fairies would immediately be locked up for disturbing the peace.


That would be true only if you buy into the Franklin (Marxist) School's paradigm in which totalitarianism of the left and totalitarianism of the right are opposites. Those of us exposed to the advanced brainwashing called a"University education" often suffer from this myopia.

Totalitarianism is totalitarianism. Ask yourself this, who is being oppressed? Who is being penalized? Who are losing their businesses? And what group of people are doing these things to Christians? Will you insist on calling the oppressors liberals?


Not all states that are now called "totalitarian" were oppressors of Christians. Franco and Salazar were both called "totalitarian dictators" by most people, they both established Catholic confessional states that protected the Church, recognized Christ as King, and rightly suppressed perverts and Communists.

The Catholic Monarchies of the past would all be called "Totalitarian fascist regimes" if they were to make a return today.


I found this on MoreRight.net:
Monarchies are very different from totalitarian dictatorships in numerous ways, which have been explained by Erik von Kuehnelt-Leddhin in his book Liberty or Equality and other works. The notion of the all-encompassing, cradle-to-grave government typical to modern liberalism would have no place in the Traditionalist system. In lieu of direct government transfer payments, governments would invest their resources in ensuring strong families and communities. The entire society would have greater expectations of family and tribe-based local support, and would be unable to function without it. Local family-to-family support and economic activity would take the place of government support and financial stimulus.


They didn't have the same cradle to grave control over our lives, no, which is unnatural anyway, but if a Catholic Monarchy of the past were to return, todays liberals, and even a lot of "trads", would consider it intolerably totalitarian, more so than any of the 'fascist' states of the 20s, 30s and 40s. These were states which had no concept of "freedom of expression", "freedom of thought", or "first amendment rights", and rightly so. These were states that burnt people at the stake for expressing what a lot of todays Catholics in America consider their "first amendment rights". St. Louis IX of France promulgated a law punishing oral blasphemy with having one's lips branded with a cross; I wonder how most people in trad chapels today would react to a law like that, if a Catholic leader were to promulgate it.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: AlanF on April 11, 2015, 07:31:12 AM
Quote from: GottmitunsAlex
(https://yt3.ggpht.com/-eYT6OVHm_mI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/ObaVmo1iWcA/s900-c-k-no/photo.jpg)


Catholics could do a lot worse than spend an afternoon reading up on the life of Léon Degrelle.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: InfiniteFaith on April 11, 2015, 11:22:15 PM
Quote from: GottmitunsAlex
(https://yt3.ggpht.com/-eYT6OVHm_mI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/ObaVmo1iWcA/s900-c-k-no/photo.jpg)

Real Anti-Christian Fascists....
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW6VZmMQkhE[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW6VZmMQkhE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW6VZmMQkhE)


How do you figure?
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: GottmitunsAlex on April 11, 2015, 11:32:02 PM
Quote from: InfiniteFaith
Quote from: GottmitunsAlex
(https://yt3.ggpht.com/-eYT6OVHm_mI/AAAAAAAAAAI/AAAAAAAAAAA/ObaVmo1iWcA/s900-c-k-no/photo.jpg)

Real Anti-Christian Fascists....
[youtube]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW6VZmMQkhE[/youtube]
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW6VZmMQkhE (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gW6VZmMQkhE)


How do you figure?

I was being facetious.
Title: Anti-Christian fascists
Post by: Cera on April 12, 2015, 12:46:29 PM
Quote from: Traditional Guy 20
Quote from: Cera
You might want to research the Franklin School and how they originated the false left-right framework before you post a pretend response. Also, you didn't answer the questions.

When the fascist totalitarians of the left oppress Christians, what do you call them? Please research the origin of the word "liberal" before you respond.


Don't be getting smart-ass with me. I already told you what liberalism is, and how it come out of the Enlightenment. Liberalism supports an economic system where the worker is oppressed since laws and the government do not help the worker but let's the businessman oppress him. That is why economic liberalism is a stupid ideology. While I support privatising enterprises I also support more economic control for the national government. Calling someone a "fascist" is something the Left has done since the 1930's so I hope you yourself are not a liberal.


Please explain what you mean by "more economic control for the national government" (and try to do so without more name-calling.)