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Anne-Catherine Emmerich and the curse of Ham ( blacks )
« Reply #15 on: October 22, 2009, 03:28:27 PM »
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  • Matthew, Anne-Catherine Emmerich is saying that the blacks are intrinsically inferior and degraded, and that the color of their skin reflects this.  This is a Germanic-utopian-eugenic comment and not Catholic.

    It's easy to look down on blacks when you observe the тαℓмυdic Babylonian America of today, with its "stars" like this --


     
    -- but that one has to be laid at the door of Freemasons and Jews.  They are the masterminds of this "equality" and "liberty" and "brotherhood" that is really a new form of Egyptian slavery.  No wonder as their "secret doctrine" is all paganism handed-down from the mystery schools that flourished in Egypt, Babylon and Sumeria.

    Come to think of it, this particular rapper reminds me of the Egyptian cat-god Bastet, showing how history repeats itself, and that the "stars" of Hollywood and music are pagan idols of flesh --


    That's actually uncanny.  

    The idea of mixing all races under the banner of "liberty," importing blacks for slavery, and Chinese to work on the railroads -- how's that for irony? -- and then releasing them into the population where at first they are kept in separate communities but then after the onset of "civil rights" the Jєωιѕн media tells them to mix with everyone else, everyone being driven onward to an unknown destination not with whips but with Hollywood films, demonic rap and rock music and drugs... What can you say?  This is a fiendish elaborate plan straight from the pit of hell.  

    But this has nothing to do with the Asians or blacks being somehow inferior or cursed from birth.  This has to do with a Satanic political system and with the overthrow of Christ from public life.  The idea of the races all living together in a Catholic nation is not unthinkable.  I've often thought that America is sort of Satan's version of heaven, where all the races are living together in harmony, except instead of being under the aegis of Christ there is nothing holding them together here but Jєωιѕн Monopoly money which any day is going to evaporate.  The heavenly brotherhood is real; the American Freemasonic brotherhood is a sham.

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    Regarding Africa -- If we claim they don't live in darkness spiritually, we will end up in the multicultural camp saying things like, "All cultures are equal. We need to learn from those African tribes! Their customs can enrich us." whereas we know that their culture is based on paganism and darkness, and ought to be destroyed in favor of a higher, Christian culture.


    I agree with this, but the whole world is in darkness spiritually right now.  "He will be given power over all the nations."

    All I am saying is that Emmerich's approach -- or Brentano's -- is not Catholic.  We cannot presume any race is inferior.  Once they are converted they are not "inferior" Catholics but simply Catholics.  

    Roscoe keeps nagging me, since I am against NFP, saying "What about Africa, do you support birth control there?"  NO.  God's laws do not change according to contingent circuмstances.  Anyway, the problem is not overpopulation; God can support this many people and more.  The problem is the damage that these creeps in the Vatican have done, including Pius XII, which is beyond calculation; all that missionary work was snuffed out.  Imagine if we had a real Catholic Church in Rome and that instead of the U.N., it were Catholic missionaries bringing food and faith to the people... But apparently that was not God's plan for the present moment.

    Christian missionaries do have to stamp out all traces of paganism and sometimes they haven't been very emphatic about that.  The Jesuits who started missions in China often allowed the Chinese to import all kinds of native customs into their Catholicism, or so I was reading yesterday.  The Jesuits apparently had a liberal streak, news to me, because I'd always assumed they were the strictest and most humorless of Orders.  But in Scholastic philosophy many of them were of the "Probabilist" school, later condemned as laxist.  The Jesuits of today are ferocious advocates of Vatican II as well.  Makes you wonder.  
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.

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    Anne-Catherine Emmerich and the curse of Ham ( blacks )
    « Reply #16 on: October 22, 2009, 03:51:52 PM »
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  • Dylan, you're confusing technological and artistic achievement with personal worth, or with merit in the eyes of God.  The holy men and women of the Catholic religion were not necessarily creators or inventors and could be seen as "inactive" from a worldly perspective.  

    What did St. Francis or St. Catherine of Siena do to get in a pantheon like yours?  Many of the people you mentioned as giants of the white race were working against the Catholic faith.  You might as well throw some Jews like Oppenheimer and Einstein in there.

    Mozart -- Freemason

    Beethoven -- Anti-Christian Enlightenment, set Schiller's Freemasonic "Ode to Joy" in the Ninth Symphony

    Napoleon -- Freemason, egomaniacal warmonger

    Bach -- Protestant, wrote organ works better suited for horror movies than a church.
     
    A black Catholic from Africa who is too slow to tie his shoelaces surely has a more beautiful soul in the eyes of God than a proud inventor, warrior or musician of questionable faith.  We cannot judge who is intrinsically inferior based on IQ or surface accomplishments.  Cripes!  That is the way to eugenics right there.

    God's thoughts are not our thoughts, His ways not our ways.  
    Readers: Please IGNORE all my postings here. I was a recent convert and fell into errors, even heresy for which hopefully my ignorance excuses. These include rejecting the "rhythm method," rejecting the idea of "implicit faith," and being brieflfy quasi-Jansenist. I also posted occasions of sins and links to occasions of sin, not understanding the concept much at the time, so do not follow my links.


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    « Reply #17 on: October 22, 2009, 05:19:16 PM »
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    Dylan, you're confusing technological and artistic achievement with personal worth, or with merit in the eyes of God.  The holy men and women of the Catholic religion were not necessarily creators or inventors and could be seen as "inactive" from a worldly perspective.  

    What did St. Francis or St. Catherine of Siena do to get in a pantheon like yours?  Many of the people you mentioned as giants of the white race were working against the Catholic faith.  You might as well throw some Jews like Oppenheimer and Einstein in there.

    Mozart -- Freemason

    Beethoven -- Anti-Christian Enlightenment, set Schiller's Freemasonic "Ode to Joy" in the Ninth Symphony

    Napoleon -- Freemason, egomaniacal warmonger

    Bach -- Protestant, wrote organ works better suited for horror movies than a church.
     
    A black Catholic from Africa who is too slow to tie his shoelaces surely has a more beautiful soul in the eyes of God than a proud inventor, warrior or musician of questionable faith.  We cannot judge who is intrinsically inferior based on IQ or surface accomplishments.  Cripes!  That is the way to eugenics right there.

    God's thoughts are not our thoughts, His ways not our ways.  


    There's no irony or contradiction there --

    There's the natural level, and the supernatural level.

    You can be "top dog" on the natural level and still be hell-bound -- in which case, what did it matter that you could split the atom or break the sound barrier?

    Likewise, you can be humble of talent and still have a soul in sanctifying grace, with much merit stored up for heaven.

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    « Reply #18 on: October 22, 2009, 06:34:14 PM »
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    « Reply #19 on: October 22, 2009, 07:06:06 PM »
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    Dylan, you're confusing technological and artistic achievement with personal worth, or with merit in the eyes of God.  The holy men and women of the Catholic religion were not necessarily creators or inventors and could be seen as "inactive" from a worldly perspective.  

    What did St. Francis or St. Catherine of Siena do to get in a pantheon like yours?  Many of the people you mentioned as giants of the white race were working against the Catholic faith.  You might as well throw some Jews like Oppenheimer and Einstein in there.

    Mozart -- Freemason

    Beethoven -- Anti-Christian Enlightenment, set Schiller's Freemasonic "Ode to Joy" in the Ninth Symphony

    Napoleon -- Freemason, egomaniacal warmonger

    Bach -- Protestant, wrote organ works better suited for horror movies than a church.
     
    A black Catholic from Africa who is too slow to tie his shoelaces surely has a more beautiful soul in the eyes of God than a proud inventor, warrior or musician of questionable faith.  We cannot judge who is intrinsically inferior based on IQ or surface accomplishments.  Cripes!  That is the way to eugenics right there.

    God's thoughts are not our thoughts, His ways not our ways.  


    It appears that you have greatly misunderstood the meaning of my post. I'm talking about the purely natural level of existence. I am not arguing the personal or spiritual worth of a Black man in contrast to a White man. Don't try to imply that I promote a Freemasonic/Jєωιѕн/anti-Catholic agenda based on your own misinterpretation of my post, as that was clearly not what I was advocating. My point is that on the purely natural level - not supernatural - White Europeans (Euro-Americans, Euro-Australians, etc.), Middle Easterners, Indians, and East Asians are vastly more intelligent in comparison to Black Africans and their descendants abroad.

    Human intelligence is hereditary; we receive it from our ancestors. It happens that the specific ancestors of Europeans, Middle Easterners, and East Asians were more intelligent than the ancestors of the Black Africans and Australian Aboriginal. Their intelligence allowed them to advance in their levels of civilizations over thousands of years and give rise to the modern Western and Eastern civilizations, while the Black Africans and Australian Aboriginals, having a decreased intelligence, remained on the same level of 'civilization' over the same period of time. In short, the more intelligent peoples of the world are able to more easily discern what is holy from what is sinful and know right from wrong on an adult level. The other less intelligent peoples, who have been isolated from the true religion since the time of the Tower of Babel, being more slow and naive, are prone to fall into superstition and paganism due to their ignorance. Then other, more grievous, sins arise within these populations. They are, in a way, like young children. That is why, ideally, the more advanced races would give guidance to the less developed races in Christian charity.

    While Napoleon, Mozart, Beethoven, and Bach were indeed what you say, and I am, by no means, I defending them or praising their personal beliefs, however there is no denying their intelligence (in respect to Napoleon) or talent and artfulness (in regard to the others).


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    « Reply #20 on: October 22, 2009, 07:33:50 PM »
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    « Reply #21 on: October 23, 2009, 03:21:32 AM »
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  • I agree with ChantCd on everything he wrote.

    There is always a hierarchy in God's plan, as ChantCD said. I believe that there will be more of a certain race in heaven than another. I believe the black race will be less in heaven than the white race. Just look at how many saints came out of Italy and France. But when you look at the black race, a great portion are Muslim or pagans in Africa. Then you have the rest of the blacks in Africa, in South America, and in the Carribean Islands who, although they may be Catholic, are practicing their faith corrupted by voodoo practices and Santaria. And then the rest of the blacks in Africa and South America are Protestant (alot of them were former Catholics who apostacized) Then you have the blacks in America who, I'm sorry to say, are mostly damned because of their immoral living.

    (But the blacks in Africa who are genuinely Catholics (and have not corrupted the faith with superstitions and voodoo), I would say end up being more devout and better Catholics than most white Catholics end up being.)

    But it is not just the number of blacks that I believe will not be that great in heaven, I also believe there won't be that much Orientals - especially Chineses and Japanese. China has the world's most populated country. There are 1.3 billion Chinese - that is more than Catholics in the world who only number 1.13 billion. Only 1% of the Chinese are Catholics. So, considering that 99% of China is outside the ark of salvation (and also don't have the Holy Spirit and the Sacraments to keep them from falling into sin), I would say that you will find few Chinese in heaven. And since Japan's Cathohlics are only .5% of the population, the same reasoning applies.


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    « Reply #22 on: October 23, 2009, 09:34:53 AM »
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    But it is not just the number of blacks that I believe will not be that great in heaven, I also believe there won't be that much Orientals - especially Chineses and Japanese. China has the world's most populated country. There are 1.3 billion Chinese - that is more than Catholics in the world who only number 1.13 billion. Only 1% of the Chinese are Catholics. So, considering that 99% of China is outside the ark of salvation (and also don't have the Holy Spirit and the Sacraments to keep them from falling into sin), I would say that you will find few Chinese in heaven. And since Japan's Cathohlics are only .5% of the population, the same reasoning applies.


    There probably will not be as many Orientals in Heaven as Europeans, but there have been a large number of martyrs over the years. Also, if Russia is ever converted to the True Faith, then hopefully China will be as well (and then hopefully my country Viet Nam, once a Catholic country under Ngo Dinh Diem, will be converted as well).




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    « Reply #23 on: October 23, 2009, 09:53:02 AM »
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  • Yes, it's hard to speculate on the demographics of heaven :)
    There's so much we don't know -- including what's to come.

    The Japanese are very fervent -- unfortunately they ALWAYS need a leader and the current leader is the secular USA. The previous leader was China. That is why St. Francis Xavier left Japan to try to convert China -- he knew the Japanese would follow.
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    « Reply #24 on: October 23, 2009, 09:57:49 AM »
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    Dylan, you're confusing technological and artistic achievement with personal worth, or with merit in the eyes of God.  The holy men and women of the Catholic religion were not necessarily creators or inventors and could be seen as "inactive" from a worldly perspective.  

    What did St. Francis or St. Catherine of Siena do to get in a pantheon like yours?  Many of the people you mentioned as giants of the white race were working against the Catholic faith.  You might as well throw some Jews like Oppenheimer and Einstein in there.

    Mozart -- Freemason

    Beethoven -- Anti-Christian Enlightenment, set Schiller's Freemasonic "Ode to Joy" in the Ninth Symphony

    Napoleon -- Freemason, egomaniacal warmonger

    Bach -- Protestant, wrote organ works better suited for horror movies than a church.
     
    A black Catholic from Africa who is too slow to tie his shoelaces surely has a more beautiful soul in the eyes of God than a proud inventor, warrior or musician of questionable faith.  We cannot judge who is intrinsically inferior based on IQ or surface accomplishments.  Cripes!  That is the way to eugenics right there.

    God's thoughts are not our thoughts, His ways not our ways.  


    I think you're confusing me with some "hate" group, just because I'm expressing the fact that blacks and whites are not equal.

    All I'm doing is stating things we've all observed, and incontrovertible truths (As Dylan did as well).

    Did you hear me ONCE say anything that could be considered "hate speech", such as "string up those n*****!"
    Of course not. We're having a philosophical discussion here.
    ALL I said is what I typed. Nothing else is to be assumed. If you're wondering, then PLEASE ASK ME and I'll be happy to clarify/flesh out what I said.

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    « Reply #25 on: October 23, 2009, 11:26:34 AM »
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    Mozart -- Freemason

    Beethoven -- Anti-Christian Enlightenment, set Schiller's Freemasonic "Ode to Joy" in the Ninth Symphony

    Napoleon -- Freemason, egomaniacal warmonger

    Bach -- Protestant, wrote organ works better suited for horror movies than a church.


    You have evidently heard about one piece of music written for the organ by Bach.




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    « Reply #28 on: October 25, 2009, 05:07:34 AM »
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    Check out the whole article. That prayer by Pope Piux IX (Mr. Infallible) concerning Blacks begs the question : Is End times Catholicism really Christian ?

    http://www.catholicsocialteaching.info/issues/racism/unsworth.html



    There is nothing there at all about Pius IX Classiccom (Mr. I Have a Schismatic Agenda).

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