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Offline MrsZ

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An increase in beheadings?
« on: May 14, 2011, 09:47:03 AM »
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  • The first news item I read this morning on Google news was that a man in some vacation resort (sorry, my reiterating of the details is going to be sketchy) randomly attacked a 62 year old British woman in a store and cut her head off.

    It said that one of the things he said was "God is on earth" and that the head was his prize or reward.  He was also described to have been in psychiatric 'care' prior to this horrific crime.

    My H just mentioned the other day another news story where a man beheaded his "girlfriend" in some public place. I remember another story about a girl being beheaded in a coffee shop by someone she'd just met. There was another report a few years ago of a man beheading someone (again "randomly") on a bus, I think a tour bus.  Someone he didn't know.

    Is it just me, or is something orchestrated and sinister going on here?  My H says that this is in fact "terrorism" and that these people are doing this (on orders?) to sow chaos into our daily lives by creating this sense of unpredictability and fear that these type of things can happen anytime, anywhere and for no "reason."

    The news reports are very careful not to mention that these individuals are Muslims.  Does anyone else have any observations on this?


    Offline Telesphorus

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    « Reply #1 on: May 14, 2011, 10:33:33 AM »
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  • It's just a different way to commit murder Mrs Z.



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    An increase in beheadings?
    « Reply #2 on: May 14, 2011, 11:46:57 AM »
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  • I think it's more common than what we care to admit. If you were to watch the local news (at least in my area) you will hear about some bizarre murder every so often.

    As far as beheadings being orchestrated, I highly doubt that. There are much more efficient ways to induce terror that one WOULD easily employ if it were his goal, and beheading isn't one of them.


    Then again.... there is something about a head on a stake that people find gruesome, but I haven't seen anyone do that (yet).
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    An increase in beheadings?
    « Reply #3 on: May 14, 2011, 01:08:21 PM »
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    An increase in beheadings?
    « Reply #4 on: May 14, 2011, 06:56:16 PM »
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  • Oh I forgot to say that I don't think they are muslims because converts usually change their names to a muslim name.

    The man on the bus was a refugee brought in by a Christian group and they were taking care of him so he may have been a supposedley Christian 'convert' but that's just my speculating.


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    « Reply #5 on: May 15, 2011, 01:50:23 AM »
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  • This could also be some sort of satanic ritual which I believe is not as uncommon as some may think.

    On a different note though still on the satanic one, I was once praying outside an abortion slaughter house and one of the other men who was praying and counselling was approached by one of the slaughter house staff who said to him, "How dare you pray outside our church!"

    There you go! This abortion mill is a satanic church where ritual slaughters take place!

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    « Reply #6 on: May 15, 2011, 08:55:19 AM »
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  • Quote from: Zenith

    On a different note though still on the satanic one, I was once praying outside an abortion slaughter house and one of the other men who was praying and counselling was approached by one of the slaughter house staff who said to him, "How dare you pray outside our church!"



     :tv-disturbed: It's a shrine alright, but to think one of it's keepers would admit it outright!  :devil2:
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    An increase in beheadings?
    « Reply #7 on: May 16, 2011, 03:14:45 PM »
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  • It seems to me that it definitely is satanic, although one could argue that all murders are of the devil.  I think there's something to certain types of murders that have a ritualistic aspect to them which puts them in a different category than murders that are perpetrated using other methods.

    And as far as my use of the word "orchestrated," I didn't mean to imply that I thought there were beheading schools or something with students graduating by committing these heinous crimes.

    Considering the fact that the Muslims have distinguished themselves as being particularly fond of this type of attack against the "infidel," it stood out to me ... also the fact that the reports of these crimes are often so lacking in significant details about the motive, the perpetrator and the details of the crime.

    We don't have television.  The news I hear about is just what I read from various news sites occasionally.  I'm not keeping up with all the murders, rapes and other types of violent crimes going on here and abroad.  I haven't made a comparison study of these murders versus others.



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    « Reply #8 on: May 16, 2011, 07:12:34 PM »
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    Considering the fact that the Muslims have distinguished themselves as being particularly fond of this type of attack against the "infidel," it stood out to me ...


    That's actually what came to my mind when you said that. Thus my reply.
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    An increase in beheadings?
    « Reply #9 on: May 18, 2011, 01:46:38 PM »
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    Considering the fact that the Muslims have distinguished themselves as being particularly fond of this type of attack against the "infidel," it stood out to me ...


    That's actually what came to my mind when you said that. Thus my reply.


    Thank you.  I appreciate you taking the topic seriously.  :)

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    « Reply #10 on: May 18, 2011, 05:20:10 PM »
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    It seems to me that it definitely is satanic, although one could argue that all murders are of the devil.  I think there's something to certain types of murders that have a ritualistic aspect to them which puts them in a different category than murders that are perpetrated using other methods.


    In executions by hanging, firing squad, beheading, is any one of those more "ritualistic" than the other?  Certainly they are less "ritualistic" than the gruesome deaths by torture that were inflicted on criminals in earlier times (like the man who attempted to αssαssιnαtҽ Louis XV)

    The king, bent on forgiving Damiens, could not avoid a trial for regicide. Tried by the Parlement of Paris, Damiens was executed on the Place de Grève on 28 March 1757, following the horrible procedure applied to regicides: after numerous tortures, Damiens was carried to the Place de Grève in the cold afternoon of that day. There, he was first tortured with red-hot pincers; his hand, holding the knife used in the attempted murder, was burnt using sulphur; molten wax, lead, and boiling oil were poured into his wounds. Horses were then harnessed to his arms and legs for his dismemberment. Damiens's joints would not break; after some hours, representatives of the Parlement ordered the executioner and his aides to cut Damiens's joints. Damiens was then dismembered, to the applause of the crowd. His trunk, apparently still living, was then burnt at the stake. There was an immense crowd to watch this gruesome spectacle, which nobody had witnessed in 147 years. Balconies in buildings above the Place de Grève were rented to women of the aristocracy for the exorbitant price of 100 livres per balcony (approx. $700 in 2005 US dollars).

    Cutting off someone's head may be disturbing to people raised on ketchup stain shootings on tv, but as far as murder goes, it's just another method.


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    « Reply #11 on: May 18, 2011, 07:15:40 PM »
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  • You are indeed entitled to your opinion.  As I indicated previously this question was really about Muslims and beheadings.  It seemed there was an increase in murders fitting this description.  In particular, there were several incidents in which the victim and murderer were virtual strangers.  These two facts, the lack of personal connection and the beheadings made me think that something else might be going on here.  The reference to ritualistic murders was an additional angle that another poster had mentioned.  I am not contesting that there have been gruesome methods of murder and execution throughout history.  Our Lord's execution for one.  

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    « Reply #12 on: May 18, 2011, 09:32:30 PM »
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    « Reply #13 on: May 19, 2011, 08:40:25 AM »
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  • Well, according the article, the murderer turns out to be "just" a garden variety lunatic.  What an awful, awful story.  Thank you Darcy for the link.  

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    « Reply #14 on: May 19, 2011, 10:07:45 AM »
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  • Speaking of gruesome murders.... a couple days ago I saw on the local news (when I was in town) somebody chopped up his friend of 20 years with a chainsaw after shooting him to death.
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