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Offline jman123

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« on: January 27, 2012, 08:40:02 AM »
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  • Why does the SSPX send many American priests overseas instead of keeping them here in the USA, their native land?

     Do the SSPX faithful object to having foreign priests minister to them?

     


    Offline s2srea

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    « Reply #1 on: January 27, 2012, 10:45:32 AM »
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  • A priest gives up his life for the sake of souls. There are need for priests everywhere. The SSPX's american seminaries are doing well (in terms of vocations) and there are parts of the world where there are "0" priests to sere the laity. At least here, if your drive is 3 hours way (at worst), its still 3 hours away. Not a 3 day walk, or a country away (which may be impossible to get to).

    And why would the faithful object to foreign priests minister to them, on that basis alone? If a priest is Catholic, has a right to be in this country legally, and is administering the sacraments, should there be any issue? And someone said this is common? I don't attend the SSPX locally, but in my experience, I know its not the standard.


    Offline Sigismund

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    « Reply #2 on: January 27, 2012, 11:38:15 AM »
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  • Other religious orders have always sent some of their members to foreign missions.  Why would the SSPX be any different?
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    « Reply #3 on: January 27, 2012, 01:49:48 PM »
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  • Note also, ordination from the US SSPX seminary does not necessarily mean that the priest was originally from the US.
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    « Reply #4 on: February 03, 2012, 07:58:11 PM »
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    A priest gives up his life for the sake of souls. There are need for priests everywhere. The SSPX's american seminaries are doing well (in terms of vocations) and there are parts of the world where there are "0" priests to sere the laity. At least here, if your drive is 3 hours way (at worst), its still 3 hours away. Not a 3 day walk, or a country away (which may be impossible to get to).

    And why would the faithful object to foreign priests minister to them, on that basis alone? If a priest is Catholic, has a right to be in this country legally, and is administering the sacraments, should there be any issue? And someone said this is common? I don't attend the SSPX locally, but in my experience, I know its not the standard.


    Having perused some discussions on here, I wonder how some here such as Matthew would see a (eeeeckk!) black priest?
    Would a black priest be valid??????? How about a racially mixed one?
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    « Reply #5 on: February 03, 2012, 08:21:31 PM »
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  • What a bunch of ridiculous nonsense. Now I can see you're a troll.

    What the hell are you trying to say, CalCal?  Are you accusing me of being a racist?

    I don't have to put up with this on my own forum.  Go find another forum owner to tick off!


    I'm not even going to dignify your wild accusation with a response. After I IP-ban you (so you can't even READ the forum) then I'll answer your question, for the benefit of the other members here.

    I don't want people thinking I got upset because you hit close to the mark.

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    « Reply #6 on: February 03, 2012, 08:32:42 PM »
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    Why does the SSPX send many American priests overseas instead of keeping them here in the USA, their native land?


    I think that they do it because it teaches them other languages, and makes them more versatile.

     
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    Do the SSPX faithful object to having foreign priests minister to them?


    I don't care where they are from, the only problem is when they have a strong accent and people can't understand them well.

    I've been told that the SSPX has a ton of priests in France that don't want to leave their country.
    "Wrong is wrong even if everyone is doing it.
     Right is right even if no one is doing it." - Saint Augustine

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    « Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 08:40:08 PM »
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  • I never once said I had anything against black people.

    Of course God calls men of all races to His Priesthood.

    I am philosophically against the destruction of all races into a single mongrel race, where race basically disappears. I believe that God willed that things like countries, cultures, languages, and races come into existence, and stay in existence. If God's plan was to have just one race, we wouldn't be having this conversation.

    FYI, it's the Jєωs (the world's biggest racists, by the way) who want all of us GOYIM to blend together into one mongrel race, with no countries or borders -- all living under Jєωιѕн tyranny. Sound fun? I didn't think so either.

    I think that, all things being equal, it's better for a man to marry within his own nation. It's also better to marry within your own socio-economic group. Even Scripture talks about how foolish it is for the rich and the poor to try to be friends. For the sake of martial harmony, it's best if each spouse comes from a similar background. Views about money, child raising, discipline, lifestyle, etc. can become huge issues if there is a great disparity between the spouses. Marriage is difficult enough without starting off with a huge handicap!

    I think it's common sense that each should try to marry one of "his own". Look at all the identity issues faced by those of mixed heritage.

    The best chance of happiness for a mixed-race couple is if both of them are Catholic. But even then, there might be plenty of earthly struggle in store, if their families were very different. Culture is an important factor in defining who we are. Generally speaking, culture, nationality, and race are related.

    Each nation or people has their own strengths and weaknesses, and role to play in this world. It doesn't really matter who is better at what in this world, since our common goal is the growth of charity in our souls, to attain to a closer union with God and a higher place in Heaven. That can be done by men of good will OF ALL RACES. I'm sure the struggle against sin and self will take different forms depending on your natural virtues and temperament -- but everyone has to fight in this world to prove they love God.

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    « Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 09:11:08 PM »
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  • In many, many things we should take our cue from nature.  Sparrows don't mate with finches.  There's nothing wrong with sparrows & there's nothing wrong with finches.  'nuff said.
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    « Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 09:34:19 PM »
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  • Quote from: CalCal
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    A priest gives up his life for the sake of souls. There are need for priests everywhere. The SSPX's american seminaries are doing well (in terms of vocations) and there are parts of the world where there are "0" priests to sere the laity. At least here, if your drive is 3 hours way (at worst), its still 3 hours away. Not a 3 day walk, or a country away (which may be impossible to get to).

    And why would the faithful object to foreign priests minister to them, on that basis alone? If a priest is Catholic, has a right to be in this country legally, and is administering the sacraments, should there be any issue? And someone said this is common? I don't attend the SSPX locally, but in my experience, I know its not the standard.


    Having perused some discussions on here, I wonder how some here such as Matthew would see a (eeeeckk!) black priest?
    Would a black priest be valid??????? How about a racially mixed one?
     :reporter:


    That is outrageous!  Matthew and I don't agree on some things, but he has never said anything that I know of to justify such an accusation.  Calumny is a serious sin.
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    « Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 09:36:56 PM »
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  • Okay, having red further, like his paranoia about Jєωs, for instance.
    Stir up within Thy Church, we beseech Thee, O Lord, the Spirit with which blessed Josaphat, Thy Martyr and Bishop, was filled, when he laid down his life for his sheep: so that, through his intercession, we too may be moved and strengthen by the same Spir


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    « Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 09:48:03 PM »
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  • I have a feeling CalCal is a previously-banned member who had an axe to grind with Matthew. Why else would someone sign up out of the blue and accuse Matthew of racism? So he's either posted here before or has been reading a long time and has developed some nasty dislike of Matthew. Either way, he deserved to be banned.
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    « Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 09:48:20 PM »
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    In many, many things we should take our cue from nature.  Sparrows don't mate with finches.  There's nothing wrong with sparrows & there's nothing wrong with finches.  'nuff said.

    Why is it that one sees racially mixed families in traditionally Catholic countries, but not so much in traditionally Protestant countries?

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    « Reply #13 on: February 03, 2012, 09:56:33 PM »
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  • That's the standard way young people are raised these days, particularly those who are not not-white.  They are taught to start to smear someone who discusses race in a politically incorrect way.  They don't make any distinctions, they just brand the person.  That's a tactic the Marxists have taught people to imitate.

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    « Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 09:58:17 PM »
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    Why is it that one sees racially mixed families in traditionally Catholic countries, but not so much in traditionally Protestant countries?


    Which colonies did the Protestants convert to protestantism, and how many whites settled in those countries?

    I would guess if you look at those places and what happened you might find your answer.