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America is permanently changing before our eyes
« on: March 17, 2020, 11:46:36 AM »
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  • "Shopping Online" has been easy and the thing to do for quite a while, however many people are creatures of habit.
    But force them to stay at home for 2-3 weeks and form new habits...

    This could be a watershed event that gets millions of people hooked on buying things online (Amazon), using "curbside pickup" and grocery delivery, etc.

    "Why didn't we do this earlier?" people will say.

    People do a lot of things "just cuz" if it doesn't make a huge difference one way or the other.

    But habits, once formed, are hard to break. Especially when those habits involve MORE convenience.

    Mark my words: brick and mortar will NEVER fully recover after Coronavirus. Not in a year, not in 2 years. Amazon is just too convenient AND they have the lowest prices on many items. Ordering online has slowly become BETTER IN EVERY WAY over the past 10 years, but it took Coronavirus to coalesce the movement, to wake many people up, to bring things to a head.

    If you study human history, you appreciate what I'm saying. Every revolution is built up for many years. Then a TRIGGER EVENT occurs -- the assassination of an archduke for example -- to set everything off. But things were building up for years before that. That's how history always works.

    Coronavirus is "the assassination of Archduke Ferdinand" for brick-and-mortar stores.

    And I for one welcome the Brave New World. I like convenience. I'm a busy man with 8 children, 5 acres, a full time job, and many side businesses, interests and hobbies. I don't have time for shopping. It's a huge chore. That's why I order everything on Amazon that I can justify (read: it's the cheapest, or tied for cheapest) My wife and I would buy even MORE things online if we weren't so frugal. But more and more, online is offering the lowest prices. The price premium disappears from more items with every passing month.

    P.S. Amazon is hiring ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND new employees to meet new demand. In the meantime, 1-day shipping has become 3 days, and 2-day shipping has become 4 days.
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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #1 on: March 17, 2020, 11:50:09 AM »
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  • Brick and mortar does cause extra overhead and, therefore, more money.  Of course, if Amazon gets a monopoly they could raise prices.


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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #2 on: March 17, 2020, 11:51:23 AM »
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  • Brick and mortar does cause extra overhead and, therefore, more money.  Of course, if Amazon gets a monopoly they could raise prices.
    I wasn't saying it was a good thing -- just that it was going to happen. There might be competition for online dollars (Wal-mart, Sams Club, etc.) and that would certainly be a good thing. But brick and mortar is going to go the way of the phone book, payphones, CDs, land line telephones, etc.

    There are some things that it's difficult to buy online -- concrete, compost, topsoil, 10' sections of metal fence rail, etc. -- those are cheaper to buy locally.
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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #3 on: March 17, 2020, 12:11:43 PM »
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  • In my opinion I think this is bad and good news. Bad, because we're approaching the days where we won't be able to get food or goods without an "electronic mark". They will be able to control our money and public lives with a stroke on a keyboard. The good news is that Our Lord's day is getting closer. Need to pray harder for our children.

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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #4 on: March 17, 2020, 01:04:51 PM »
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  • I wasn't saying it was a good thing -- just that it was going to happen. There might be competition for online dollars (Wal-mart, Sams Club, etc.) and that would certainly be a good thing. But brick and mortar is going to go the way of the phone book, payphones, CDs, land line telephones, etc.

    There are some things that it's difficult to buy online -- concrete, compost, topsoil, 10' sections of metal fence rail, etc. -- those are cheaper to buy locally.

    I don't disagree.  I think that brick-and-mortal stores for most goods were going away anyway.  Certainly the little Mom-n-Pop shops can't compete.  I do think that restaurants will survive and come out OK on the other side.  Some will certainly fold, but then new ones will open.


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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #5 on: March 17, 2020, 01:06:30 PM »
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  • … But brick and mortar is going to go the way of the phone book, pay phones, CDs, landline telephones, etc.

    Betting on the triumph of the online shopping phenomenon is one thing, but betting that landlines are doomed in the foreseeable future is quite another. Specifically, it is a heck of a good way to lose money. Landline connections are immeasurably more secure than cellular connections are ever likely to be, and secular society's movers and shakers—people for whom security is critical—are well aware of that fact.

    Besides, once the severe spike in microwave-induced cancers appears in about a decade—to the delighted enrichment of the Jєωιѕн ambulance-chasing lawyer community—lots of people will discover that life without 24/7 availability to the whims of annoying cell phone callers has its compensations.

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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #6 on: March 17, 2020, 04:05:49 PM »
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  • "Shopping Online" has been easy and the thing to do for quite a while, however many people are creatures of habit.
    But force them to stay at home for 2-3 weeks and form new habits...

    This could be a watershed event that gets millions of people hooked on buying things online (Amazon), using "curbside pickup" and grocery delivery, etc.

    "Why didn't we do this earlier?" people will say.

    People do a lot of things "just cuz" if it doesn't make a huge difference one way or the other.

    But habits, once formed, are hard to break. Especially when those habits involve MORE convenience.

    Mark my words: brick and mortar will NEVER fully recover after Coronavirus. Not in a year, not in 2 years. Amazon is just too convenient AND they have the lowest prices on many items. Ordering online has slowly become BETTER IN EVERY WAY over the past 10 years, but it took Coronavirus to coalesce the movement, to wake many people up, to bring things to a head.

    ...

    And I for one welcome the Brave New World. I like convenience. I'm a busy man with 8 children, 5 acres, a full time job, and many side businesses, interests and hobbies. I don't have time for shopping. It's a huge chore. That's why I order everything on Amazon that I can justify (read: it's the cheapest, or tied for cheapest) My wife and I would buy even MORE things online if we weren't so frugal. But more and more, online is offering the lowest prices. The price premium disappears from more items with every passing month.

    P.S. Amazon is hiring ONE HUNDRED THOUSAND new employees to meet new demand. In the meantime, 1-day shipping has become 3 days, and 2-day shipping has become 4 days.
    I hear what you are saying, and I don't entirely disagree with it, but local retailers provide jobs for your neighbors, and it's good for the community for people to have jobs and to be working.   I have seen what it is like for communities to be decimated due to large employers pulling out.  You end up with empty storefronts, people without hope, people desperately trying to sell their belongings at flea markets, public assistance, and far too often, prescription and illicit drug abuse.  People lose hope and they go in search of an anodyne.

    Even though my present community is in no danger of massive loss of jobs, communities function better when you keep as much money local as possible --- distributism and the principle of subsidiary at work, after a fashion.   That said, very often I need goods that simply aren't available locally, or not without calling and driving all over town, and online is the only reasonable alternative.

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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #7 on: March 17, 2020, 04:32:56 PM »
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  • Take away our land line.  (No communication if cell towers down)
    Control our cell phones.
    Control the availability of necessities. (No store competition)
    We're pooched!  We're now 100% dependent on and controlled at the whim of the elites.
    Slippery slope just turned into a cliff.

    Have we learned nothing in the past 40 years?  They always make it convenient and appealing  to lead us where they want us to end.

    The up side....we'll be back to the barter system.  (IF we don't get caught)
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]



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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #8 on: March 17, 2020, 04:52:06 PM »
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  • I wasn't saying it was a good thing -- just that it was going to happen. 
    I thought you said in your opening post "And I for one welcome the Brave New World"
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #9 on: March 17, 2020, 06:02:17 PM »
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  •  If you get the wrong part or wrong size, it costs money and time to ship back. Also, what looks like quality on line is poorly constructed when shipped.  Also, there is no guarantee that you won’t get hacked and lose life savings.  

    These brick and mortar stores are suffering because of over paid ceos.  They are buying junk from communist countries who use slave labor then turn around and over charge consumer.   

    I wouldn’t trust food in a box because of food tampering by some disgruntled employee or sick minded terrorist.  

    I like my food in person. Currency has been used since the times of Jesus.  

    This online is nєω ωσrℓ∂ σr∂єr to control all of us. 

    And American government shouldn’t bail out these corporations, restaurants, retailers.  They should close down if they make bad business decisions like catering and donating  to pro sodomy and pro abortion “charities.”   They were failing before the virus and now want free government money.  The small family business owner doesn’t get bailed out. 

    It is time for America to go back to traditional business with ethics. USA companies made here in USA by Americans using American parts.  Stop using tax dollars to fund communist ceos and their anti Christian companies. 

    Local businesses also protects the environment.  Also there is more food safety. 

    They should kick out traitors of our country who get freebies. One thing is to love thy neighbor but to allow people to invade our country is being a fool. 











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    Offline Matthew

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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #10 on: March 17, 2020, 06:45:36 PM »
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  • I thought you said in your opening post "And I for one welcome the Brave New World"
    To be more clear:
    There are downsides as well, but I'm willing to deal with them in this particular case. 
    Buying from the cheapest and the most convenient source "works for me".
    I can't fight the trend, and I'm not going to try. We're not going to have a great "human" (as opposed to inhuman) system until after the chastisement anyhow. We have to pick our battles. I've chosen other ones.
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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #11 on: March 18, 2020, 03:22:38 PM »
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  • Yes, America is changing before our eyes, and so is everywhere else. Had this in reserve so I will post it here while i can.

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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #12 on: March 19, 2020, 01:24:49 AM »
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  • Buy online with what? 

    Loads of people have no job and no income.

    There is 1 trillion in overnight debt. 

    The banking system will collapse.  How are you going to pay? 

    This is the collapse of the global economy.  Amazon won't be functioning in a year. 

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    Re: America is permanently changing before our eyes
    « Reply #13 on: March 19, 2020, 11:27:50 AM »
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  • https://carlbherman.blogspot.com/2020/03/36-minute-video-of-evidence-that.html

    Although I have been more or less unplugged from the Traddieland and MSM Machine for almost a decade, even a cursory investigation makes it crystal clear that Coronavirus is not at all what it may seem or is presented to be and the hullabaloo surrounding it is serving as a massive, worldwide smokescreen, a tool for MUCH bigger and more important activities.

    Another member posted the following, but I am re-posting it to reinforce the idea that it'd be wise to dig much, much deeper on this one.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CtfqUtW_8AA&feature=youtu.be

    I used to follow Max years ago and only just watched him again for the first time last night.  Not a perfect source, but he provides a lot of good info: https://www.rt.com/shows/keiser-report/

    This day is the middle of a 5-day stretch celebrating some of the heaviest hitters among all of God's great Saints: St. Patrick, St. Joseph and St. Benedict.  Pray to them for light, strength, peace of mind and heart, guidance, etc.  Please pray for me, as I do for all who read these words.

    Godspeed.
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    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]