3. We using human reasoning to understand the order in the universe and the laws
which govern the movement of the planets, which leads to the conclusion that it must
be a creation of an intelligent being (proof of God). Does God hate for man to use
telescopes ?
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4. Heliocentrists do not judge the act of creation. They discover the laws of the
universe and apply them to figure out what is orbiting what.
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Geocentrists do not understand the laws of the universe and are forced to say "God
can do it", or it's "An act of Faith". Geocentrists cannot even explain why we have
seasons. "God does it somehow" is just not good enough for scientists and
astronomers.
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If you need to put a satellite in orbit, that remains stationary over Dallas, TX, then
you must understand a few of the laws of the universe to accomplish it. You can't
expect God to do it for you.
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Geocentrism is NOT a dogma of the Catholic Faith. See the decree of 1822, which
forbids the condemnation of Heliocentrism. Sorry, but the decree of 1633 was not
an infallible decree and the church fathers were not astronomers.
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The original problem with Galileo was not Heliocentrism, it was his idea that Scripture
could be in error on scientific things. However, Scripture says nothing about the
Earth being in the center of the universe or solar system. The word "center" is NOT
in the Bible. The word "universe" is not in the Bible. Sorry.
I tell you Apollo, I have never read such codswollop on so many fronts.
'Does God hate for man to use telescopes.''Heliocentrists discover the laws of the universe,' What laws are you saying heliocentrists discovered Apollo? The only law I am aware of is Kepler's
'The squares of the periods of revolution of any two planets are as the cubes of their mean distance from the sun.' And it was from the observations of the geocentrist Tycho de Brahe that Kepler found this law. His elliptical compromises are not laws because the geocentrist astronomer Domenico Cassini falsified such orbits.
Oh I know whose 'laws' you think God cannot cope with, Newton's and Einstein's., two anti-Christs who pushed God out of creation and replaced His concursus with 'natural laws.' Do you know how many other theories of gravitation there were at the time of Newton Apollo? Did you know Einstein showed Newton's theory could not work so put up another theory of his own. Theory after theory, and the Apollos of this world think they are 'Laws.'
Look Apollo, relativity prevails today, geocentrism is as viable as heliocentrism. Do not try to argue this or that proves heliocentrism, it dosen't. Every physicist in the world today knows this. If relativity prevails, then the 'laws' of the universe cannot be known. Oh yes you can argue your 'laws' for heliocentrism, but you cannot prove them. That is modern physics. You can hold either as the truth.
But Catholicism has its Scriptures. Faith in the Scriptures is the Catholic faith. It is what we believ is the word of God. Now God knows how the universe works, He told us in Scripture the sun and stars move around the Earth. On His word alone all the Fathers read the Bible asccordingly and when challenged in 1616 the pope dogmatised this revelation by making it formal heresy to deny it.
'Geocentrism is NOT a dogma of the Catholic Faith. See the decree of 1822, which
forbids the condemnation of Heliocentrism. Sorry, but the decree of 1633 was not
an infallible decree and the church fathers were not astronomers.' you say above.The decree of 1820 allowed an
imprimatur for a heliocentric book. Since when did an
imprimatur constitute an ABROGATION. Why do you heliocentrists not know Canon law or ignore it?
Abrogate it; that is, abolish it completely. But for a law to be abrogated, new legislation must accompany it, stating this clearly, and in justice should state why this is being done. (B) A judgment of a previous pope can be derogated. This means that the legislation still remains in force but it has been modified in some way.It was a DEROGATION that occurred in 1820, but the modifications were an illusion. Now the above is canon law and you cannot ignore it.
Here then once again is how your heliocentric heresy eliminated the first dogma of the Catholic Faith, God can be known for certain by the things that he made.'
‘Within two centuries…the world was led into a new realm of thought in which an evolution theory of the visible universe was sure to be rapidly developed. For there came, one after the other, five of the greatest men our race has produced, Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo, Descartes, and Newton, and when their work was done the old theological conception of the universe was gone.… the Almighty enthroned upon “the circle of the heavens,” and with his own hands, or with angels as his agents, keeping sun, moon, and planets in motion for the benefit of the Earth, opening and closing the “windows of heaven,”… all this had disappeared. These five men had given a new divine revelation to the world; and through the last, Newton, had come a vast new conception, destined to be fatal to the old theory of creation, for he had shown throughout the universe, in place of almighty caprice, all-pervading law… The bitter opposition of theology to the first four of these men is well known; but the fact is not so widely known that Newton, in spite of his deeply religious spirit, was also strongly opposed. It was vigorously urged against him that by his statement of the law of gravitation he “took from God that direct action on his works so constantly ascribed to him in Scripture and transferred it to material mechanism,” and that he “substituted gravitation for Providence.” But more than this, these men gave a new basis for the theory of evolution as distinguished from the theory of creation…. By the middle of the nineteenth century the whole theological theory of creation – though still preached everywhere as a matter of form – was clearly seen by all thinking men to be hopelessly lost.’[1]
[1] Andrew White: A History…, p.15.