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Offline St Cyprian

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Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
« on: April 25, 2019, 05:17:03 PM »
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  • A video full of great bits of scientific facts that prove intelligent design and God's incredible intelligence and glory.

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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #1 on: April 25, 2019, 06:39:11 PM »
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  • I wonder if you actually read the forum instead of just posting Dimond videos you'd notice Matthew posted this exact video a couple days ago. 


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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #2 on: April 25, 2019, 07:22:49 PM »
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  • 2,410,229 views with only 163 comments.  Has any one ever seen a video on youtube with this many views and this few comments?  I haven't seen the video yet, but I'm looking forward to it.  This is just to point out how youtube can and does so often manipulate the # of views for whatever reason.  Is it a lure here to bring people over to the Dimond Boys?

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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #3 on: April 25, 2019, 07:25:19 PM »
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  • 2,410,229 views with only 163 comments.  Has any one ever seen a video on youtube with this many views and this few comments?  I haven't seen the video yet, but I'm looking forward to it.  This is just to point out how youtube can and does so often manipulate the # of views for whatever reason.  Is it a lure here to bring people over to the Dimond Boys?
    Spanish version has 4,137,426 views with only 254 comments.
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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #4 on: April 25, 2019, 07:32:20 PM »
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  • Hah! I remember watching a video the Dimond brothers did exposing Eric Gajewski (TradCatKnight) for purchasing views, likes and comments.

    Hmmm, maybe they did just that?
    Humble thy spirit very much: for the vengeance on the flesh of the ungodly is fire and worms. - Ecclesiasticus 7:18


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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #5 on: April 25, 2019, 07:56:45 PM »
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  • 2,410,229 views with only 163 comments.  Has any one ever seen a video on youtube with this many views and this few comments?  I haven't seen the video yet, but I'm looking forward to it.  This is just to point out how youtube can and does so often manipulate the # of views for whatever reason.  Is it a lure here to bring people over to the Dimond Boys?
    Youtube has no motivation whatsoever in bringing people to an "anti-semitic", "hate-speech" channel. The views do seem very high but I think the comments were just heavily moderated. 

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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #6 on: April 26, 2019, 11:26:36 PM »
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  • edit :sleep:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #7 on: July 07, 2019, 10:21:22 PM »
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  • 1. You can't purchase "views", but you can advertise it so that people have the opportunity to watch it, but they actually have to watch it. 
    2. Have you actually watched it? It is AMAZING!
    3. The Dimonds do use it to "lure" non-Catholics who are searching for the truth. They have had a lot of success at getting well meaning Protestants to convert. 
    4. Can anyone name just 1 error that the Dimonds have on faith and morals and back it up with proof? I have been searching for an error for a year  now and I can't find anything. I have learned a ton and found that i had erroneous beliefs. They back up everything with proof. Their detractors are numskulls that i have found so far. 
    5. I read a lot of baseless Dimond-bashing, but there is never any substance. Do they appear to be arrogant, well, YES. Are they just exasperated at the bad will and blindness of those that call themselves Traditional Catholic? I have no doubt. After reading and watching so much nonsense by traditional clergy, I am getting pretty annoyed myself. 


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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #8 on: July 07, 2019, 11:52:10 PM »
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  • The Dimond brothers are sedevacantists.  All the arguments against sedevacantism apply to them. 
    But that is a topic for another thread. 

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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #9 on: July 08, 2019, 07:27:40 AM »
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  • I have no time for the Dimond Brothers. They begin their video with what was decreed and defined as formal heresy within Catholicism, a heliocentric solar system.

    The greatest of all evidence for God, happened to be the world as described in Genesis, with our EARTH as the most special and privileged place, created at the centre of the Universe. Outside of this universe is heaven and the furthest place from heaven is Hell at the centre of the Earth. that used to be the teaching of St Thomas Aquinas.

    The vast majority of the whole human race, except some Pagans, notably the Pythagoreans, held this visual fact as depicting the Earth and mankind as a special place made for us by God. Later came the revelation who that God was. From the beginning of Christianity the Sacred Doctrine of Geocentrism was the greatest of all evidence that God exists and that mankind was priviliged. There is no point in describing the complexity of a living cell or any other such scientific findings as evidence until recent years when such could be known. 'God can be known with certainty from the things that he made' goes the Dogma. In other words, we do not need science to find this evidence, it must be there for all men from the beginning to see. Geocentrism however, was there for all to see, from Adam and Eve to Noah and his offspring. And so it was until the Dimonds of this world presented God's Earth as a 'planet,' just another of those bodies orbiting the sun. It is they who now try to make their spinning planet Earth special again in the beginning of their video when it had been the most special place on its own merits since God created it.

    And most of us know how the Freemasons demoted the Earth to a planet, one of now billions throughout the universe. We know how they invented causes by way of Isaac Newton, and biased interpretations of discoveries to insist Geocentrism was 'proven' wrong. We now know the story as to how and why from 1741 churchmen fell for this same 'proof' that the papal decree of 1616 and its confirmation as irreversible in 1633 had been proven false. So when in 1835, the pope allowed books promoting a version of heliocentrism as true, the end came for the Earth as a special creation at the centre of the universe and was deemed as no more than a planet orbiting the Sun, but one, unlike the others in their solar system, that evolved life. That is the Earth the Dimond Brothers present at the beginning of their video.

    But there is more. In 1870 and beginning in 1889 came scientific tests that showed the geocentrism of 1616 and 1633 was of course never proven wrong. Indeed the scientific evidence now showed geocentrism was the truth, just as the 1616 decree of Pope Paul V had defined. By 1905 Einstein was trying to give the heliocentric heresy the kiss of life. He did this with his Special Theory of Relativity, a theory that tried to take into account the scientific findings since 1870 and make them apply also to heliocentrism. Since then Einstein's STR has been falsified so many times it has become a joke. But they need to keep the world from knowing it is geocentric as Genesis and Scripture says it is. Pope john Paul II used it in 1992.

    Now the Dimond Brothers are sedevacantists. They believe popes were heretics since Vatican II. That is their view and I shall not argue against their belief. Personally I accept I am not allowed make such a decision even if they were. But when Popes in 1820 and 1835 accepted a heliocentrism 'according to modern astronomers,' they in effect adopted heresy according to their predecessors decrees of 1616 and 1633. In other words, the Dimond would have to place their sedevacantism back to 1820. They did not, could not, do this, so they joined the Heliocentrists attack on the authority of the 1616 and 1633 decrees while promoting the heliocentrism defined as formal heresy in their video.

    So it seems the Dimond sedevacantism has them picking and chosing what is Church teaching and what is not. And that is why I have no time for them or their 'heretical' video.

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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #10 on: July 08, 2019, 07:37:55 AM »
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  • The only thing the Dimonds have said on Geocentrism is that they don't know. They haven't taken a position on the issue. The clip at the start of the video is just a random pretty rendering of space they found somewhere. 


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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #11 on: July 08, 2019, 09:59:44 AM »
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  • There is an exhaustive THEOLOGICAL treatment of Geocentrism on the Dimond brothers website:
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    https://www.mostholyfamilymonastery.com/Geocentrism.pdf
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    Their conclusion is that Geocentrism is NOT an infallible teaching of the Church and
    they give strong evidence and arguments for this.
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    From the SCIENTIFIC point of view, there are several strong arguments against Geocentrism:
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    1. The Earth does not have enough gravity to keep the Sun in orbit around the Earth and
    there is NO other know measurable force which can keep the Sun in orbit.
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    2. Neptune would have to be traveling at a velocity faster than the speed of light to circle
    the Earth in 24 hours.  The Andromeda galaxy would have to be moving at 6 million times the
    speed of light to circle the Earth in 24 hours.  
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    3. Stellar Parallax has been measured by modern telescopes.  The Geocentrism theory has
    no explanation how this can happen.  The Heliocentrism theory has no problem with Stellar
    Parallax.
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    I've heard the Geocentrism arguments about Aether, Electromagnatism, and God-Can-Do-It,
    but one must realize that Geocentrists cannot understand gravity, celestial mechanics or
    Stellar Parallax.  Here is an explanation of Stellar Parallax:
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    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stellar_parallax
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    I did not plan to divert this thread into a Geocentric argument, but some people keep harping
    on Geocentrism and telling lies about it.  Lies should be exposed as such.
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    If you cannot understand Stellar Parallax and cannot understand that telescopes in 1633 were
    not capable of measuring Stellar Parallax, then don't tell me I'm wrong, and don't expect me
    to reply to your lies (er ... I mean opinions :-*)
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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #12 on: July 08, 2019, 10:04:24 AM »
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  • 2. Neptune would have to be traveling at a velocity faster than the speed of light to circle
    the Earth in 24 hours.  The Andromeda galaxy would have to be moving at 6 million times the
    speed of light to circle the Earth in 24 house.  

    Only if no allowance is made for the earth to be rotating.  Geocentrist and Geostationary are not necessarily the same thing.  Also, a flat earth model would mean that the rotation of the other bodies isn't what modern science claims it is.

    Also, nobody knows what gravity is or how it works.

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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #13 on: July 08, 2019, 10:14:20 AM »
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  • Only if no allowance is made for the earth to be rotating.  
    Also, nobody knows what gravity is or how it works.
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    OK, throw out argument #2 and let the Earth rotate. There are two other arguments
    that Geocentrists cannot explain.  But then they claim that nobody knows anything
    about the other two arguments, which is a cop out.
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    None of the Geocentrists know what gravity is or how it works, even though they are
    experiencing it 24 hours a day, 365 days a year for as long as they live.
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    Probably they don't know what air is either, but they sure know a lot about what
    "shall not be moved" means (in the Bible).  
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    Therefore, they contradict themselves.

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    Re: Amazing Scientific Evidence for God
    « Reply #14 on: July 08, 2019, 10:19:34 AM »
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  • Have the Dimond Boys ever issued a public declaration as to their own infallibility or lack thereof?

     

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