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Offline thecolorandthenoise

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Am I the only one who doesn't have a car?
« on: September 04, 2006, 05:44:27 PM »
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  • So, I'm 21 and I hate to drive. As far back as I can remember I've always harbored this feeling. I just loathe the whole idea of everyone relying on their cars as if we couldn't survive without them. One of the things that I really hate about America is how dependent we are on automobiles and how difficult it is for non-drivers like me to get around. The whole transportation infrastructure in America is based on the automobile. This is probably unique in the whole world. Here's some random observations on automobiles that I feel like rambling on about a) because I'm ornery at the moment and b) we need more threads here. So here we go:

    1) Doesn't anybody else find it strange that we give practically any idiot the right to hurtle through time and space in a slab of metal that weighs over 3,000 lbs at 60 + miles per hour? Driving is not a right, it is a privilege. I know I personally don't feel very safe out there on the road with some of those whackos out and about.

    2) We would not have an oil crisis if we all weren't so dependent on these vehicles. Period.

    3) Look how fat the average American is. People are too lazy to walk a block to pick up bread and milk, so they hop in their huge SUV instead.

    4) Insurance is crazy *&^@ expensive. I live in Massachusetts and if I'm not mistaken we have the highest premiums in the country.

    5) Cars cost too much to maintain! Seems like in life, whenever you are struggling the most - at that moment your car decides to crap out and make things even more difficult.

    So, yeah, I don't like cars. My ideal living situation would include the
    stipulation that I not be reliant on automobiles. Anybody else feel the same way?

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    Am I the only one who doesn't have a car?
    « Reply #1 on: September 04, 2006, 07:25:30 PM »
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    I'm glad you're feeling ornery.  You talk when you're ornery.  I think all the mutes on the net congregate here.

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    Driving is a privilege???  Who is the Dispenser Almighty of this privilege?  In my opinion, the state glommed on licensing, etc, as a source of revenue.   Also, if driving is a privilege, how about operating a printing press, or a cake mixer or a train?  Ah, you say, cars have the potential to kill.  So do wolves.  And lightning.

    Yes, driving is a privilege and I'm glad you mentioned trains because I was going to make a point about that. Is everyone qualified to conduct a train? Is your next door neighbor qualified to pilot a commericial jet? Why then, is every joe mentally and physically equipped in this country to operate a motor vehicle? It just seems absurd to me. Definately seems to stem from this individualistic, "me, me, me!" culture that we find ourselves in. I just don't see all the great saints throughout Church history demanding to cruise the streets for a "joyride".

    I think I'm just weird. ;)

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    Otherwise I agree with you whole heartedly.  IF you read Chant's post on surviving the economic collapse, you noticed that the author suggests getting rid of your vehicle(s) now.  I will say that I am beyond making the ten mile walk or bike trek to town, but hey.  Use your head to save your heels, right?

    Thanks. At least in this regard I'm ahead of the curve. Maybe if I start using a solar dryer I'll be + 2. :)  

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    Here's an interesting thing I read tonight.

    The nation itself, with all its so-called internal improvements, which, by the way are all external and superficial, is just such an unwieldy and overgrown establishment, cluttered with furniture and tripped up by its own traps, ruined by luxury and heedless expense, by want of calculation and a worthy aim, as the million households in the land; and the only cure for it, as for them, is in a rigid economy, a stern and more than Spartan (16) simplicity of life and elevation of purpose. It lives too fast. Men think that it is essential that the Nation have commerce, and export ice, and talk through a telegraph, and ride thirty miles an hour, without a doubt, whether they do or not; but whether we should live like baboons or like men, is a little uncertain. If we do not get out sleepers,(17) and forge rails, and devote days and nights to the work, but go to tinkering upon our lives to improve them, who will build railroads? And if railroads are not built, how shall we get to heaven in season? But if we stay at home and mind our business, who will want railroads? We do not ride on the railroad; it rides upon us. Did you ever think what those sleepers are that underlie the railroad? Each one is a man, an Irishman, or a Yankee man. The rails are laid on them, and they are covered with sand, and the cars run smoothly over them. They are sound sleepers, I assure you. And every few years a new lot is laid down and run over; so that, if some have the pleasure of riding on a rail, others have the misfortune to be ridden upon. And when they run over a man that is walking in his sleep, a supernumerary sleeper in the wrong position, and wake him up, they suddenly stop the cars, and make a hue and cry about it, as if this were an exception. I am glad to know that it takes a gang of men for every five miles to keep the sleepers down and level in their beds as it is, for this is a sign that they may sometime get up again.

    That is just waaaay over my little polish head at the moment! LOL.


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    Am I the only one who doesn't have a car?
    « Reply #2 on: September 04, 2006, 08:26:18 PM »
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    Bad analogy, trains.  Every machine user needs an appropriate lesson in the operation of same.  Once appropriately taught they are qualified to use that machine.  Even an airplane.  The gov't has nothing to do with it, nor does privilege; only skill.  Maybe we should define our terms, esp. "privilege".  

    Now if you are saying that some are too irresponsible to have control of that much power, you might have something there.  But then how do you explain God giving Goliath so much more power than He gave David?


    Hmm, I don't know. I'm not advocating more government involvement in who gets to drive and who doesn't... it just feels like it should be common sense. It just doesn't seem right that there are so many unskilled, unfit drivers on the road today who somehow feel that since they are on this earth they somehow automatically deserve to be burning rubber on the highway. Hmm. Just kind of thinking out loud here... if I sound like I'm off my rocker, pay me no mind. Hehe. It's not really a big issue to me at all, I just felt like pontificating for a bit.  :soapbox:

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    Am I the only one who doesn't have a car?
    « Reply #3 on: September 04, 2006, 09:27:47 PM »
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  • I just wanted to point out something I heard about Thoreau.

    First of all, he wasn't Catholic. That's a big strike against him as a model for wisdom.

    Second of all, his whole "live in the woods thing" was a big scam. His sister brought him food, laundry, etc. while he played "cabin in the woods".

    Ever since I heard that, he lost all mystique for me. He was just trying to draw some attention to himself -- to make a name for himself. But he was a complete city slicker.

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    Am I the only one who doesn't have a car?
    « Reply #4 on: September 05, 2006, 06:21:10 PM »
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    I can top you there, Chant.  In the end he wasn't even a Christian anymore.  Seems he lost his way somehow.  Still it doesn't mean that he had everything wrong all the time.  Even if he was a nutcase or a fraud, his ideas on simplicity are good ones, at least worth thinking about.  And he was quite erudite, which makes his work handy.  I wonder, is there anyone outside of Jesus who we don't have to qualify occasionally, or at some point in their life?


    Do not worry, TCN, you are in my prayers concerning the driving issue. I know I had a difficulty getting on the road too, but I finally did about a year or so ago. :) Nonetheless, I see what you mean about the dependency on cars. One reason we also need cars is because of the distance between this and that place like work, school, stores, or other places. A professor of mine who is a toxicologist told my Radiopharmacy class that sooner or later electric cars will be used made by a maker like Tesla motors. I am not sure about that though completely, but you never know. My professor said that first the movie stars would start buying the electric cars and make them popular, and then finally they would get cheap enough where we could all afford them. Still, it would be nice if places were closer to our own homes. Someday I hope I can then somehow buy a house close to my workplace.

    About Thoreau, indeed, I would not really always take the advice of a non-Catholic seriously. Some advice can be good coming from non-Catholics, but the rest should be not really taken to heart. It is sad though that we have a society where the examples are celebrities who are not really examples to follow. Mel Gibson is one of the very few exceptions despite his recent mishap. We can talk about celebrities forever too, but their lives are not ours. Talking about them can distract from our own lives and from reality then. Especially consider the fact how celebrities are put forth as heroes and saviors, but all they really try to do is entertain. I mean what have they done besides entertaining and perhaps charity? Where is the Catholic example? Celebrities seem to be put forth as the "aristocrats" of today. I know I went off on a tangent here, but I just wanted to mention something that had to somewhat do with Thoreau's advice not being the best advice for a Catholic to take.
    "Non nobis, Domine, non nobis; sed nomini tuo da gloriam..." (Ps. 113:9)


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    Am I the only one who doesn't have a car?
    « Reply #5 on: September 08, 2006, 10:04:56 AM »
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  • I can't afford a car.  Which is too bad, because my family needs someone to drive them around.

    If I can find a job I'll get that issue settled, but I still feel like I'm conceding to the thiefs who are jacking up our gas prices.
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