Author Topic: Am I married? (Read 4204 times)

2Vermont · « **Reply #5 on:** August 14, 2014, 08:57:19 AM »

TKGS: When I read the title of this thread I thought of the validity of a NO Sacrament of Marriage. It is my understanding that there were no changes to this Sacrament. However, I do doubt now whether we received the Body and Blood of our Lord at our Mass. I tend to believe that the priest who confected the Eucharist was ordained by a valid bishop, but I guess there will always a bit of doubt about his ordination.

Histrionics · « **Reply #6 on:** August 14, 2014, 09:46:00 AM »

Was she at least an 8?

TKGS · « **Reply #7 on:** August 14, 2014, 12:31:40 PM »

Quote from: 2Vermont

TKGS: When I read the title of this thread I thought of the validity of a NO Sacrament of Marriage. It is my understanding that there were no changes to this Sacrament. However, I do doubt now whether we received the Body and Blood of our Lord at our Mass. I tend to believe that the priest who confected the Eucharist was ordained by a valid bishop, but I guess there will always a bit of doubt about his ordination.

Actually, there are various "forms" that the couple can choose for a wedding. One of which is the "traditional form" which is largely the same. The actual words used (i.e., the sacramental form) used in the new "traditional form" are basically the same as in the true traditional form, but many of the ceremony surrounding the sacramental form have changed even using the new "traditional form".

The priest gave us a booklet which contained a number of options which, sadly, I no longer have. But there were a number of different options for both wedding Masses (Novus Ordo, of course) and a wedding without a Mass.

The Conciliar sect did not leave any of the sacraments alone.

poche · « **Reply #8 on:** August 14, 2014, 10:42:58 PM »

Quote from: InfiniteFaith

When I was young and stupid (18 years old), I entered into a relationship with a girl for about 4 months. It was one of the biggest mistakes of my life as the relationship was full of fornication. I entered into this relationship out of curiosity, I wasn't really attracted to her, and I did not truly love her. Even though I would tell her I did. Yeah I know it sounds weird, but I guess I felt kinda trapped into this relationship for a number of reasons. Anyways, I remember that, one day, towards the end of the relationship, I asked her to marry me. I think I was half serious about it and half way joking about it at the same time. Then of course, she says "yes". Then she asked the same question in return, and I said "yes". We never went any further than that with it. There was no blessing from a priest or a wedding or anything. That was it.

The part that is getting me now is that I just read that you do not need a priest in order to get married. I am wondering if maybe I am actually married to this girl because of what I mentioned above.

Nowadays, she lives in another country and is married to another guy, and has a kid by him. I am not sure if this matters in the eyes of God. Maybe God still sees me and her as being married. That is, of course, if we truly are because of what i mentioned above.

So I will leave it at that for now. But I need to know if I need to get an annulment of some sort. I was not very serious about it when I asked her but I think she was. Plus I did not truly love her. What do you think?

No, you are not married to her. In order for a marriage to be valid it has to follow the correct form as determined by the Catholic Church as determined by Canon Law. This is the rule book you would have to follow.

http://www.vatican.va/archive/ENG1104/_INDEX.HTM

On a side note. If you lived in the 1790s the fact that you proposed marriage to her and she accepted, that would be an impediment to any future marriage to any one else.

InfiniteFaith · « **Reply #9 on:** August 15, 2014, 03:29:02 AM »

Quote from: Histrionics

Was she at least an 8?

Son, I'm sorry you had to find out about who your father is this way. But its important that you know now. I hope you understand, and please forgive me for not being apart of your life.

I wish I could make it up to you, but I can't. I'm sorry that you are taking it so hard.