Our chapel has the All Souls remembrance slips to fill out and place on the altar during Mass. My mother's side of the family is Protestant and several of my relatives on that side are deceased.

So my question is: Is the All Souls remembrance only for the Faithful departed or can we include non-Catholics as well?

It is only for the faithful departed.
The Church only prays for non-Catholics while they live, not after death, it's always been that way.

Confirmed. Good posts.  Important stuff.  


"May the souls of the faithful departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace."


This is actually a HOT TOPIC and should get some discussion.

When those caskets came back from the US Consulate in Libya, there was
a very impressive military routine to move them off the plane and into the
hearses.  Nice.  Beautiful.  We had lost a lot of that in Vietnam, etc.  

But there was something that stood out to me, when the preacher prayed
this prayer, it was obviously Protestant. He said,

"May the souls of the departed, through the mercy of God, rest in peace."

I was with another Catholic at the time and he did not notice there was a
word missing.  One word, makes all the difference..  You can have all the
beautiful pageantry in the world, but if the deceased are not Catholic, the
One, True Church, outside of which there is no salvation, does no pray for
the repose of their souls.  Period.  


Now, to the modern, ecuмenically-minded Novordien, this sounds just like
heresy.  Not a LITTLE BIT like heresy, but JUST LIKE HERESY.  

That's a problem.

And it is up to us to bring this fact to light.  But how do we do that????

It's the BISHOPS' JOBS to do it.  But they're not doing it.  Oh, wait.  Bishop
Richard Williamson would do it (I don't know if he in fact has done so, but it's
the kind of thing he does all the time -- that is when he's not muzzled).  So
with the only 3 bishops who are apparently capable of speaking out with
authority (perhaps +Pivarunas or someone like that could help, but I don't
get their material for whatever reason) being ham-strung, hog-tied, and
oyster-shelled, what can laymen do?  

In Germany, one could be arrested for inciting religious unrest because you
have offended the Protestants.  Don't think so?  They have a new thing
going around there that says you ought to be in jail if you say anything in
public that is "negative" or "hateful."  Boy, Hitler wouldn't have made it
through ten minutes in public under that law.  HAHAHAHAHAHA

Listen to Fr. Pfeiffer's new October 21st sermon.

In This Sign You Shall Conquer (dot) com

What about good priests?  Well, you might find some outspoken independent
priests who will say something about it,  but in the main, SSPX priests are
afraid of being expelled for rocking the cradle I mean boat.  

You might get some CMRI priests speaking out, but it's going to be limited
coverage, unless you start putting their sermons online.  I haven't seen that
happen yet.  


Have you???

I take it there is some thinly veiled Baptism of Desire denial going on in this thread?

The Fatima prayer we say 5 times during the Rosary is, "O my Jesus, forgive us our sins, save us from the fires of hell, and lead all souls to Heaven, especially those in most need of your Mercy. Amen."

Those in most need of God's mercy includes those who are dying, and therefore in terrible need of the sacraments and the great graces of contrition and final perseverance.

All who die in good faith, catechumens included, for example, are to be accounted among "the faithful departed". This is proved even from the 1917 Canon law.

Traditionally the Church does not pray for those who've given public scandal in her public prayers if they showed no signs of conversion, but it is permitted, and recommended, to pray for them in private.

It is a work of mercy to pray for the living and the dead, especially those dying today or who've died recently, and to offer sacrifices and prayers for them, or even our whole lives and actions. This was something our dear Mother Mary reminded us of frequently of at Fatima. She said too that many poor souls go to hell because there is no one to pray, and no one to make sacrifices, for them.

Yes, it is necessary that they have been united to Christ and the Church before they died, at least in desire and perfect charity. "Deathbed" conversions are rare, but as it was with the good Thief, they do happen.

Here's another incident from St.John Vianney's time involving a convert to the faith, a Jєωιѕн priest's prayers for his dying mother, how at her side on her deathbed he  did not see the hoped for conversion, yet did not lose heart in prayer and hope, and was later shown by God that, known to Him alone, his mother had embraced the faith before she died.

http://papastronsay.blogspot.in/2011/10/text-of-letter-prophesied-to-father.html

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I take it there is some thinly veiled Baptism of Desire denial going on in this thread?

I am not sure the veil is all that thin.  We can pray for anyone.

For the Masses for All Souls' Day, I list everyone (deceased) who seemed to me to be trying to follow Our Lord.  "I know My sheep and My sheep know Me.  They will hear Me and follow Me."

I do NOT list those people who did not try to follow the Ten Commandments, e.g. someone who was an unrepentant thief.  But, when in doubt, I list them.