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« Reply #10 on: February 08, 2010, 03:35:04 AM »
I think the vast majority of the above strongly indicates the fact that Raoul ought to be banned.  I have no ill feelings toward you Raoul, but you (and certain others I won't name) cause much discontent here and your rather loud and long posts above show that you do not wish to comply with Matthew's request.

Despite our differences, I don't consider you or CM or any of the other sedes, feeneyites, etc. to be heretics.  I don't agree with your positions, but I believe that the Church will eventually clarify these not-so-clear issues.  If you can't offer the same good will to others that is extended to you, you shouldn't be posting here.

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« Reply #11 on: February 08, 2010, 03:52:48 AM »
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If you can't offer the same good will to others that is extended to you, you shouldn't be posting here.


Saying I should be banned outright is your idea of good will?  You had said this a couple days ago, so don't pretend that you are just complying with Matthew's recent request.


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« Reply #12 on: February 08, 2010, 04:05:25 AM »
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Jamie said:
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If you can't offer the same good will to others that is extended to you, you shouldn't be posting here.


Saying I should be banned outright is your idea of good will?  You had said this a couple days ago, so don't pretend that you are just complying with Matthew's recent request.


I know I said it a couple of days ago - and I hope it partly inspired this change of heart he has had.  You are one of the people doing the very thing he is complaining about and it is entirely unnecessary.  If we can all be civil to the minority here (sedes) why can't they be civil to us?  Why is that every topic here ends up with one of you sedes calling someone a heretic?  How is that helpful in any way?  

I would be happy to discuss theological points with you to the best of my ability, but I, among others here, will eventually stop engaging in any topics that you (sedes) appear in.  As for fkpagnelli (I may have spelt that wrong), I have seen nothing but vitriol spew from his mouth since he started posting recently.  It is not holy or healthy.

Look back over my posts since I joined here and you will not find one instance of me calling someone a heretic - despite them holding contrary views to my own.  Sadly we would all be hard pressed to find many posts by the sedes here that DON'T call someone a heretic.

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« Reply #13 on: February 08, 2010, 04:32:18 AM »
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You are one of the people doing the very thing he is complaining about and it is entirely unnecessary.


I don't call people heretics very much.  I just point out my position and then they look at their own and say "Well, he must be calling me a heretic."  It's an inference.  

So far two what I'd call "liberal sedes" on this site, who I have suggested were holding a heretical position, have contacted me -- why aren't those in SSPX as passionate about learning?  They know I'm not trying to insult them and am concerned about their souls.  I have been a material heretic myself, and still am for all I know!

I don't say anyone should learn from me.  I just say they should LEARN.  Go out and look at the evidence.  I just try to point out what strikes me as important.

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Look back over my posts since I joined here and you will not find one instance of me calling someone a heretic - despite them holding contrary views to my own.


You won't see many in VII calling anyone heretics either.  That is because the liberals who have taken over all the Church structures can afford to look "nice."  They have reduced their enemies to mere crackpots on the fringes.  All they have to do is act smug and say "Well, they're entitled to their opinions."

It's called wolves in sheep's clothing.

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« Reply #14 on: February 08, 2010, 07:25:41 AM »
Matthew, can this constitute banning? He publicly calls you and the rest of us heretics and one has to wonder why he is even here then, other than work to devil-ide..

I see he and CM are include in the Catholic list, which makes me again wonder if this is the buddy CM noted as having that agreed with him 100%. Like the wolves from SGG that infiltrate, a wolf in our midsts..

I unhid FK to see what angry vitrolic he spewed and I was not surprised in the least.

lets ban him and maybe even CM and move on to a real discussion without wasted space and time....their vitrolic alone must be costing you site space....

FK in these last few posts has proved he is no gentlemen and is here only to disrupt, maybe he has no wehre else to go for his arrogance and his acid.....