Author Topic: All Ireland Rally For Life in Belfast (Read 1294 times)

John Grace · « **on:** July 08, 2012, 03:53:01 PM »

Some photographs have emerged of yesterdays rally in Belfast. I wasn't at it but its reckoned about 7,000 people attended.It was ignored by the controlled media.I don't use nor recommend Facebook but more photographs can be found here
http://www.facebook.com/Allirelandrallyforlife

John Grace · « **Reply #1 on:** July 09, 2012, 05:27:08 AM »

Whilst I always commend these events, the party/festival atmosphere is not necessary. I would prefer folk or some classical music. It's fair to point out though that in other photographs, you see rosary beads being held and images of Our Lady.

Rally For Life 2012

John Grace · « **Reply #2 on:** July 09, 2012, 05:34:33 AM »

Whilst perhaps 'Fr' Terry might not agree but Ulster is the Jєωel in Ireland's crown. It was planted because it was most fiercely Gaelic and Catholic of all provinces. As a friend recently stated.

"Stick the 'reformation' where the sun doesn't shine, Elizabeth, my dear was the Ulster attitude".

Bernie Smyth and Precious Life are very ecuмenical but reading some comments today some womenfolk are reminding their supporters of how Catholics are called to combat.

I have always believed we are a type of soldier engaged in a holy war.

A positive to this rally is a new militancy will emerge. There seems to be more militancy among the Irish than other Nations.

It might rally the troops in other Nations.

John Grace · « **Reply #3 on:** July 09, 2012, 06:57:38 AM »

It's no particular surprise that the abortion supporters get enraged when they see rosary beads or clergy or religious.

Some of their photographs.Perhaps one or two are worth mentioning in light of the thread on wearing a rosary.

John Grace · « **Reply #4 on:** July 09, 2012, 07:22:44 AM »

The alternative media have been the ones covering the rally but this mainstream paper has this.

http://www.irishnews.com/news.aspx?storyId=1172641&imageIDlocal=http

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THOUSANDS of people from across Ireland descended on Belfast at the weekend for an anti-abortion rally.
The All-Ireland Rally for Life was billed by organisers as "the most important date in the pro-life calendar".
One man was arrested after scuffles broke out at the city hall, where there were around 100 counter-demonstrators.
The main speaker at the Rally for Life was Fr Terry Gensemer, an Episcopal minister from Alabama in the southern US.
Also speaking was Bernie Smyth, pictured, of the anti-abortion organisation Precious Life, which hosted the rally.
Buses brought supporters from counties Cork, Donegal and Dublin among other parts of Ireland.
Precious Life called on people to turn up "to be a voice for the unborn child".
The group said "powerful proabortion campaigners in Ireland, the UK, the European Union and United Nations are attacking our pro-life laws so that's why it's so important we show our opposition to abortion".
Police confirmed that one man had been arrested at Belfast City Hall and then released on bail after reports of an assault. ■ BANNERS: Opponents of abortion march through Belfast city centre on Saturday PICTURE: Alan Lewis/Photopress ■ PROTEST: Pro-choice activists stage a counter-demo outside Belfast City Hall on Saturday
PICTURE: Arthur Allison/ Pacemaker

John Grace · « **Reply #5 on:** July 09, 2012, 07:40:44 AM »

It's fair to mention YD/Precious Life have grass roots support from all walks of life. Each group/individual does their own thing but can come together for these rallies and protests.

There should be no apologies for having fascists in the ranks. Same for the SSPX. They would have fairly empty chapels if they were to condemn fascism.

Look at the background of those who attacks 'radicals' in the chapel. The likes of J Christopher Pryor or Martin Blackshaw in England.As I said before if people have an issue with fascists take it up with their SSPX priest. Raise their 'concerns'.

John Grace · « **Reply #6 on:** July 11, 2012, 05:36:20 AM »

http://www.prolife.ie/prolife/large-pro-life-crowd-belfast-rally

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Large Pro-Life Crowd for Belfast Rally
Posted on 09/07/2012 to
Irish News - Pro-Life |
The Seventh All-Ireland Rally for Life which took place in Belfast on Saturday, July 7, 2012, was an impressive display of strength, dedication and joy. Fifteen minutes before it began, it looked as if the numbers were going to be down on 2010, the last time the rally was held in Belfast. But by 2pm, its starting time, Custom House Square was packed with flag-waving, cheering pro-lifers in carnival mood, who had journeyed in busloads from all over the island of Ireland. Led by a double-decker bus with very loud music, the crowd paraded in an orderly manner up to City Hall. Due to the large numbers, the police re-routed the crowd around the back of City Hall on their way back to the starting point. The Rally closed with several messages from the organisers.

Rev Terry Gensemer, an Episcopalian minister from Alabama, USA, spoke of the triage of unborn children in his home state, and warned Ireland to keep abortion out at all costs. Fr Peter Byrne CSsR, the well-known Limerick preacher and writer, rounded off the messages with a special prayer for the unborn.

One of the strongest arguments against abortion was the large number of young people taking part, male and female. A good number of priests as well as the auxiliary Bishop of Down and Connor, Dr Donal McKeown took part in the Rally. At City Hall, a group of around 100, organised by Choice Ireland in Dublin, did their pathetic best to counter the message, but were deluged with music and pro-life slogans.

God must have been pleased with the Rally, as not one drop of rain fell on Belfast during the two-hour rally.
Family & Life. July 9.

John Grace · « **Reply #7 on:** July 11, 2012, 05:46:58 AM »

I have to disagree with Fr Terry and those who wish to keep Ireland "abortion free".I shall try find the figures but quite a number of surgical abortions take place in the North of Ireland each year. The Department of Health can be contacted regarding this. Also people seem to be excluding use of the IUD and other contraceptives.

Having as many children as God wants is the only way to stop abortion.

Whilst encouraging a large family, activists must also set up reception hostels for girls considering abortion or for those after giving birth. Staffed and managed by Catholics.

In Dublin, some Catholic women have established a place where women can go to. It is near the Marie Stopes.

John Grace · « **Reply #8 on:** July 11, 2012, 06:09:27 AM »

To give credit to the SSPX in Ireland their clerics always mention the rally from the pulpits in the chapels and faithful attend in large numbers. However, it a shame YD/Precious Life never have Traditional priests speaking at the events. In the piece from Family and Life, I posted below, Fr Peter Byrne is mentioned.He conducts 'Healing Masses'. What is a 'healing Mass'? I'm not up to date on happenings in the Novus Ordo.

Traditionalists in Ireland, whilst small in number need to increase activity. Instead of losing chapels and not expanding the SSPX need to start expanding.

Hopefully their youth group mentioned in another thread can do a populist leaflet for distribution.

John Grace · « **Reply #9 on:** July 11, 2012, 06:14:55 AM »

The situation in Ireland is not as dire as England but Traditional Catholics need to be leading the way.

John Grace · « **Reply #10 on:** July 11, 2012, 06:25:56 AM »

http://www.lifesitenews.com/news/archive/ldn/2009/nov/09111113

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Northern Ireland Abortion Numbers Questioned By Pro-Life Groups

By Thaddeus M. Baklinski

BELFAST, November 11, 2009 (LifeSiteNews.com) - Both the Society for the Protection of Unborn Children (SPUC) in Northern Ireland and the Belfast-based Precious Life have called for police investigation following the release of official figures which revealed that 92 abortions were carried out in Northern Ireland during 2008.

Currently, Northern Ireland allows abortion legally only in cases where it is clear that a pregnancy threatens the life of the mother, but the pro-life groups indicate that no medical reasons for the abortions are included in the records, leaving the possibility that the abortions were illegal.

"Any medical intervention which would risk a child's life is only lawful if the doctor considers it necessary to save the mother's life. It is not lawful for a doctor to intend the child's death," said Liam Gibson of SPUC Northern Ireland.

"There is evidence, however," Gibson continued, "that abortions have been performed simply because the child may have been disabled. Abortions for disability are a form of fatal discrimination and are unlawful in Northern Ireland. It is very worrying, therefore, that the health minister claims he doesn't know the reasons for which abortions are carried out in Northern Ireland."

Precious Life is calling for the circuмstances behind the abortions in Northern Ireland hospitals to be opened to public scrutiny. They also said that the doctors who performed the abortions must be challenged about the legality of their actions and also called for police investigations into any believed to have been carried out illegally.

Director of Precious Life, Bernadette Smyth, said, "These figures raise all sorts of questions. In Northern Ireland, abortion still comes under the criminal law. It is a very serious offence to take the life of an unborn child. The only defense is when the death of the child occurs as an unintentional result of providing life saving treatment to the mother. We want to know why each and every one of these abortions were carried out."

"We also want to know what happened to the bodies of the babies and whether birth certificates or death certificates were issued. If any of the abortions were illegal, the medical staff involved must be questioned by police and charged," Smyth said in a press release.

A further problem in the official abortion figures that concerns the pro-life groups is a discrepancy between the latest figures and the figures Health Minister Michael McGimpsey released in December 2008.

The latest official figures were released in response to an assembly question by SDLP MLA Pat Ramsey who asked the Minister of Health, Social Services and Public Safety how many terminations of pregnancies have been carried out in the last five years. A similar question was asked in December 2008 by DUP MLA Simon Hamilton.

"In a written answer last December, Mr McGimpsey said that in Northern Ireland there were 59 abortions carried out in 2004, 82 in 2005, 69 in 2006, and 99 in 2007* (*the 2007 figure was provisional and subject to change). But now, only eleven months later he says there were 67 abortions carried out in 2004, 64 in 2005, 80 in 2006, and 79 in 2007," Bernadette Smyth said.

"At best, this smacks of sheer incompetence. At worst, it smacks of a cover-up. Has the Department something to hide? Are they covering up illegal abortions? If his Department cannot explain the discrepancies in the figures, then Mr McGimpsey should resign," Smyth concluded.

InstaurareEcclesiam · « **Reply #11 on:** July 11, 2012, 06:45:09 AM »

Ireland must stand firm against the culture of death promoted by the Socialist and Liberal burocrats from the EU (hijacked by the enemy since 1992).

Looking from the images, I desperately need to date and marry an Irish girl.... I would have no objection to raising a large family with some of the pro-life girl activists. Great and courageous women, knowing about the importance of life, family, sacrality.

Yes, of course one can bicker about shorts, jeans and the Anglican minister present.

But promoting the common good is not restricted to being a merely confessionally Catholic action, we are called to accept allies in this respect.

The problem in Ireland is the loss of Faith among the youth, and materialism. The crisis may reinforce the importance of family, family private property, family solidarity though. And the importance of Faith and trust in God.