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Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
« on: March 11, 2020, 01:37:39 AM »
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    U.S. Representative-elect Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) shared a bit of personal background information with a progressive Jєωιѕн group during an event this past Sunday, the final night of Hanukkah.
    Speaking at the Jackson Heights Jєωιѕн Center in Queens during the event organized by Jєωs for Racial and Economic Justice, Ocasio-Cortez revealed that her lineage traces back to Sephardic Jєωs who hid their heritage during the 15th Century. Those Jєωιѕн ancestors soon fled Spain, she said; her own ancestors were among those who eventually reached Puerto Rico.

    https://www.Jєωιѕнpress.com/news/breaking-news/ocasio-cortez-says-shes-descended-from-crypto-Jєωs/2018/12/11/

    Anyone high up in the establishment can be assumed to be a Jєω (overt or not) or an Uncle Tom of Jєωs.

    Lots of Hispanic Jєωs. Lots of white Jєωs. Lots of black Jєωs. Lots of Indian Jєωs. Lots of Arab Jєωs. Lots of Asian Jєωs.

    Most non-whites you see in the media aren't gentile non-whites.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.


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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #1 on: March 11, 2020, 11:51:27 AM »
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  • Marranos... :jester:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'


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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #2 on: March 11, 2020, 03:30:42 PM »
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  • This comes as no surprise --- she certainly looks Sephardic --- but how is this significant?  There are millions of Sephardic Jєωs whose ancestors adopted Catholicism, as well as those who remained Jєωιѕн.  I worked with a lady who was Sephardic.  One of my college professors was Sephardic, but raised Catholic, indeed, was in the convent for a time.

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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #3 on: March 11, 2020, 04:31:18 PM »
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  • Anyone high up in the establishment can be assumed to be a Jєω (overt or not) or an Uncle Tom of Jєωs.
    What is an "Uncle Tom of Jєωs"?
    "Let God arise, and let His enemies be scattered: and them that hate Him flee from before His Holy Face"  Psalm 67:2[/b]


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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #4 on: March 11, 2020, 08:12:43 PM »
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  • What is an "Uncle Tom of Jєωs"?
    A servile gentile with Jєωιѕн handlers. Let's Jєωs do his thinking for him and make decisions for him, and will spout whatever they want him to spout. Dime a dozen. Martin Luther King is a classic example of an Uncle Tom of Jєωs.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.


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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #5 on: March 11, 2020, 08:19:34 PM »
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  • This comes as no surprise --- she certainly looks Sephardic --- but how is this significant?  There are millions of Sephardic Jєωs whose ancestors adopted Catholicism, as well as those who remained Jєωιѕн.  I worked with a lady who was Sephardic.  One of my college professors was Sephardic, but raised Catholic, indeed, was in the convent for a time.
    It's not significant to you, because you must be Judaized. Non-Judaized people like to know which powerful people are Jєωs, especially the ones who don't advertise it or conceal it. Barack Obama was a Jєωιѕн president. It's clear that she's not Catholic in any meaningful sense, which is just what you could expect from the descendant of marranos.
    Some would have people believe that I'm a deceiver because I've used various handles on different Catholic forums. They only know this because I've always offered such information, unprompted. Various troll accounts on FE. Ben on SuscipeDomine. Patches on ABLF 1.0 and TeDeum. GuitarPlucker, Busillis, HatchC, and Rum on Cathinfo.

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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #6 on: March 12, 2020, 12:20:04 AM »
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  • This comes as no surprise --- she certainly looks Sephardic --- but how is this significant?  There are millions of Sephardic Jєωs whose ancestors adopted Catholicism
    millions???...-- there were perhaps thousands... :confused:
    There Is No Such Thing As 'Sede Vacantism'...
    nor is there such thing as a 'Feeneyite' or 'Feeneyism'

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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #7 on: March 12, 2020, 07:55:22 AM »
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  • It's not significant to you, because you must be Judaized. Non-Judaized people like to know which powerful people are Jєωs, especially the ones who don't advertise it or conceal it. Barack Obama was a Jєωιѕн president. It's clear that she's not Catholic in any meaningful sense, which is just what you could expect from the descendant of marranos.
    What I am hearing here --- and correct me if I'm wrong --- is that anyone with Jєωιѕн ancestry is really at heart a Jєω, and that even if they have never been taught Judaism, and have never practiced it, they remain Jєωιѕн in thinking and mentality (somebody please explain how this happens), and that this is an evil thing to be mistrusted.  I don't deny that AOC is of Jєωιѕн descent, but there is no evidence whatsoever that she has ever embraced or practiced Judaism.  As are so many of her contemporaries, she is a nominal Catholic.  Where is the evidence that Obama is of Jєωιѕн descent?  His mother's parents appear to be white-bread Midwestern Protestants transplanted to Hawaii.  About as far from ethnic Judaism as you can get.


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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #8 on: March 12, 2020, 09:03:35 AM »
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  • millions???...-- there were perhaps thousands... :confused:
    I was referring to their descendants today, not how many conversos there were at that time.  Perhaps "millions" is too many.  I don't have exact figures on how many descendants of conversos or marranos there are today.  Their numbers are not insignificant, I'll just say that.

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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #9 on: March 12, 2020, 07:09:37 PM »
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  • There are millions of Sephardic Jєωs whose ancestors adopted Catholicism, as well as those who remained Jєωιѕн.  
    But...
    Ocasio-Cortez revealed that her lineage traces back to Sephardic Jєωs who hid their heritage during the 15th Century.
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    These means they had no intention of sincerely converting to the Catholic Faith and so did not "adopt Catholicism" but were in fact deceiving marranos. Her heritage then is marrano.

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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #10 on: March 12, 2020, 08:58:40 PM »
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  • But...
    Ocasio-Cortez revealed that her lineage traces back to Sephardic Jєωs who hid their heritage during the 15th Century.
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    These means they had no intention of sincerely converting to the Catholic Faith and so did not "adopt Catholicism" but were in fact deceiving marranos. Her heritage then is marrano.
    And this trickled down to the present day?  There were no sincere conversions?  Did they "hide their heritage" because they did not want to be known as Sephardic?  That is not necessarily inconsistent with a true conversion.  Or did they tell their children "kids, we're only Catholic because our ancestors had to pretend to convert to save their hides --- now, let me let you in on a little secret, you see, we're really Jєωs and that's our religion, not Catholicism".  Why would people have to do that several hundred years after the events that prompted it?  Why would they continue to "pretend to be Catholic"?  Why not simply revert to Judaism (as some, indeed, have done) or abandon religion entirely?  Why even go through the motions?

    I'm not saying that what you described never happened, but I question whether it is a universal mindset among the descendants of the marranos, several hundred years later, and that they're all caught up in this wink-and-a-nod business of "we're really Jєωιѕн but we'll pretend to be Catholic and keep conspiring against the goyim while we're at it".  (Or whatever word Sephardim would use for gentiles.)


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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #11 on: March 12, 2020, 11:50:36 PM »
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  • And this trickled down to the present day?  There were no sincere conversions?  Did they "hide their heritage" because they did not want to be known as Sephardic?  That is not necessarily inconsistent with a true conversion.  Or did they tell their children "kids, we're only Catholic because our ancestors had to pretend to convert to save their hides --- now, let me let you in on a little secret, you see, we're really Jєωs and that's our religion, not Catholicism".  Why would people have to do that several hundred years after the events that prompted it?  Why would they continue to "pretend to be Catholic"?  Why not simply revert to Judaism (as some, indeed, have done) or abandon religion entirely?  Why even go through the motions?

    I'm not saying that what you described never happened, but I question whether it is a universal mindset among the descendants of the marranos, several hundred years later, and that they're all caught up in this wink-and-a-nod business of "we're really Jєωιѕн but we'll pretend to be Catholic and keep conspiring against the goyim while we're at it".  (Or whatever word Sephardim would use for gentiles.)
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    It is still trickling down. I recommend you read Judaism and the Vatican, An Attempt at Spiritual Subversion, by Leon de Poncins. It is available online.
    http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/judaism/judaism.pdf
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    Yes, there are sincere conversions. I did not say there were not. That does not mean that a marrano can hand any faith to his progeny, if he does not possess the faith. Some grace has to intervene from some other source for a Jєω, the progeny of a marrano, to convert to the faith of Jesus Christ. He will then no longer be Jєω, but a Catholic. He will generally be disowned by his family.
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    Did they "hide their heritage" because they did not want to be known as Sephardic? The issue here is not Sephardism but Judaism. A Jєω who, for whatever reason, "hides his heritage" is deceiving, which in itself shows bad faith.
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    Whether they continue to "pretend to be Catholic" or revert to Judaism or abandon religion entirely, still the essence of Judaism is the hatred of Christ and his Church.  Nowadays they have the knife by the handle, so to speak, so there is not the need for them to hide their heritage, as this politician is not hiding hers.
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    To observe this wink-and-a-nod business of "we're really Jєωιѕн but we'll pretend to be Catholic and keep conspiring against the goyim while we're at it" you really should read Judaism and the Vatican. You will find plenty of evidence there, among "Catholic" churchmen  including cardinals.
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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #12 on: March 13, 2020, 09:27:01 AM »
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    It is still trickling down. I recommend you read Judaism and the Vatican, An Attempt at Spiritual Subversion, by Leon de Poncins. It is available online.
    http://www.catholicapologetics.info/apologetics/judaism/judaism.pdf
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    Yes, there are sincere conversions. I did not say there were not. That does not mean that a marrano can hand any faith to his progeny, if he does not possess the faith. Some grace has to intervene from some other source for a Jєω, the progeny of a marrano, to convert to the faith of Jesus Christ. He will then no longer be Jєω, but a Catholic. He will generally be disowned by his family.
    .
    Did they "hide their heritage" because they did not want to be known as Sephardic? The issue here is not Sephardism but Judaism. A Jєω who, for whatever reason, "hides his heritage" is deceiving, which in itself shows bad faith.
    .
    Whether they continue to "pretend to be Catholic" or revert to Judaism or abandon religion entirely, still the essence of Judaism is the hatred of Christ and his Church.  Nowadays they have the knife by the handle, so to speak, so there is not the need for them to hide their heritage, as this politician is not hiding hers.
    .
    To observe this wink-and-a-nod business of "we're really Jєωιѕн but we'll pretend to be Catholic and keep conspiring against the goyim while we're at it" you really should read Judaism and the Vatican. You will find plenty of evidence there, among "Catholic" churchmen  including cardinals.
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    Thanks for your considered reply.  I have downloaded that book and will read it.

    When I said "Sephardic", I meant "Sephardic Jєωs", I wasn't attempting to bifurcate the two.  I would have absolutely no issue with a Sephardic Jєω who sincerely professed and practiced Catholicism.  I knew of one such lady, one of my college professors, who had been in the convent, but later came out, repudiated Catholicism, and simply referred to herself as Jєωιѕн.  From all indications she was a lesbian --- her obituary noted a female "companion" as surviving her --- so she may just have gone into the convent (this was pre-V2) because she didn't want to get married, but didn't want to have to explain why she was single, or be tagged by 1950s Midwestern society as a spinster.  Requiescat in pace.

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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #13 on: March 13, 2020, 06:44:30 PM »
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  • Thanks for your considered reply.  I have downloaded that book and will read it.

    .... I knew of one such lady, one of my college professors, who had been in the convent, but later came out, repudiated Catholicism, and simply referred to herself as Jєωιѕн.  From all indications she was a lesbian ... so she may just have gone into the convent (this was pre-V2) because she didn't want to get married.
    Glad to be able to help. There was a time when these things were hidden from my eyes.
    Could it have been that she entered the convent for the purpose of promoting the cause of lesbianism in the convent?
    A fuller study is The Plot Against the Church, published 1962, by Maurice Pinay (a pseudonym for a group of consecrated men who distributed it to 2,200 visiting Cardinals and bishops to warn them about what to expect from the Second Vatican Council. The Italian version which was distributed at the time ran to 900 pages.
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    Re: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez descendant of cryptos
    « Reply #14 on: March 13, 2020, 09:48:02 PM »
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  • Could it have been that she entered the convent for the purpose of promoting the cause of lesbianism in the convent?

    Oh, I tend to doubt that.  She had a crisis of faith that led her to leave the Church.  Her lesbianism, if indeed she was, was never obvious and I didn't have a clue until I read her obituary and saw the female companion listed among the survivors.  It's always possible that she wasn't lesbian and that it was simply a "Boston marriage" --- these "marriages" did not always have a sɛҳuąƖ or erotic element.  There is always such a thing as two people just being close friends.