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« on: October 17, 2012, 01:42:53 PM »
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  • I have been thinking about getting an Agnus Dei for my home lately. Some of you may remember these, the wax discs made from the left over Paschal candles and blessed by the Pope. Each of my family members carries a small one. I understand that they haven't been made since V2? Does anyone know why or what the story is behind stopping this tradition? Also, I may only be able to get a complete one by purchasing it. I know sacramentals can not be bought and sold, but this is just about the only way to get one nowadays. I have read that if sacramentals are sold they lose their "blessing" and have no spiritual value other than that intrinsic to any unblessed religious object. Would this be true in this case? Would that make it just a "religious collectable" rather than a Sacramental? What does this mean for religious relics, such as the ex oss?  


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    « Reply #1 on: October 17, 2012, 08:31:48 PM »
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  • A knowledgeable priest recently explained to me that, as you say, a blessed
    article, that is, a sacramental that has its intrinsic spiritual value from the fact
    that it has been blessed, cannot be sold and retain its blessing.  Therefore,
    an agnus dei would lose its blessing and spiritual characteristics if it is so much
    as OFFERED for sale, whether it is sold or not.  It can be given away, or it can
    be acquired in a transaction that involves a 'donation,' but it cannot be sold or
    even so much as offered for sale, lest it loses its blessing instantaneously.

    Now, in regards to relics, this is different.  Relics do not have their spiritual
    value tied to any 'blessing' on them.  The material of the relic is a holy thing
    in itself.  There are three kinds of relics.  First class relics are parts of the
    body of a saint, usually a bone fragment, or else a piece of a material object
    such as a sliver of the True Cross, or a fiber from the Veil of Veronica, or a
    thorn from the Crown of Thorns. Second class relics are an article that was
    touched by the saint in life, such as clothing, or papers, or eyeglasses, etc.,
    usually their own personal effects.  Third class relics are articles that are
    touched to first class relics, and do not have to be anything special to begin
    with; usually a small patch of cloth is used.  None of these relics have to be
    blessed, and their spiritual character is intrinsic.  They can be sold, therefore,
    without affecting their character, but they are not supposed to be sold, for
    that is an offense against God.

    I have known people who obtained an agnus dei, years ago, and they gave
    some kind of donation at the time, as I recall, but I have never heard of
    them being 'for sale' officially.  You can be sure that a lot of them have been
    discarded as 'trash' by people who are ignorant or uncaring, or simply
    contemptuous of everything religious.  They usually have some lace or ribbon
    or paper in their design besides the wax, so unless they are in a glass case
    or protection, they will naturally collect dust and grime over the years as
    anything else does, and they will look 'old' and 'tattered,' and therefore not
    appealing to the modern eye that only values things 'new.'

    If you do find one, and it looks like it's seen better days, I would think it's
    okay to refurbish it by replacing the lace or paper or ribbon, but not the wax.
    For the wax is the key element, it would seem.  I could be wrong about that.

    I've seen agnus deis that look like little stuffed animals, or pillows. I guess
    the wax is inside the stuffing.  I don't know what happens to that if it gets
    too hot, like everything does when you leave it in your car these days!  In
    some climates, like the desert, the entire car and its contents can heat up
    to 140 degrees F. (60 C.) in a sunny parking lot, and after 8 hours of that,
    all wax everything will be entirely melted.

    As for post-Vatican II, I don't know, but a lot of things changed then.  This
    may be one of the little things that gets returned one fine day when some
    semblance of sanity returns to the Papacy.  
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    « Reply #2 on: October 17, 2012, 09:10:17 PM »
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  • Inspired by your question, I looked up a few images of Agnus Dei ...





    Here is the Agnus Dei of the English Jesuit and martyr,
    St. Edmund Campion, whose feast is today [Tuesday, December 1, 2009].
    To quote:

        ....The Agnus Dei [was] carried by St. Edmund Campion on his clandestine missions, and a gift of Pope Gregory VIII. Campion was found hiding in Lynford Grange, Berkshire on July 17, 1581, and was hanged, drawn, and quartered five months later. The Agnus Dei was found wrapped in a list of indulgences stuffed in the rafters of Lynford Grange when the roof underwent renovation in 1959.
















               ANGUS DEI                                                  
                Dated 1741                                            
                    from                                                          
           Pope Benedict XIV                                  
               (1740-1758)                                                
                  Figure of:                                                                    
               Saint Norbert                                            
               (c1080-1134)                                                
                 size: 50mm      

    On the page of that last one, is found the following explanation:

    These two [metalic lockets shown on that web page] were consecrated in the traditional manner during Easter season of 1964 by Pope Paul VI. Inexplicably, he did not ever consecrate the Agnus Dei again. Nor has any Supreme Pontiff since. No offical reason has ever been given by Rome as to why the ancient and revered practice was abandoned.

    Although its origin is shrouded in the mist of antiquity, the sacramental Agnus Dei is first mentioned in historical Church accounts as early as the sixth century, and referred to frequently by the early to middle ninth century. Thus, for over ten centuries the Agnus Dei has been a popular and treasured sacramental to Catholics.

    The name "Agnus Dei" was given to special discs of wax impressed with the figure of a lamb, the "Lamb of God" which were blessed by the reigning Pope in a ceremony so solemn that the Pope was said to consecrate the sacramentals. Popes traditionally consecrated Agnus Deis only during the first year of their pontificate and again every seven years.

    In earlier times, on Holy Saturday, the Pope, with the assistance of the Archdeacon of Rome, prepared the wax from the previous year's paschal candles, adding both chrism and balsam to the wax. The Agnus Deis were subsequently consecrated on the Wednesday of Easter week and distributed on Saturday of the same week. In more recent times, the wax was prepared by monks, dipped in water mixed with chrism after being formed and then consecrated by the Pope and distributed. When visiting Cardinals would visit the Holy Father, an Agnus Dei wax disc, or multiple disc,  would be placed into his miter. The Cardinals then distributed the Agnus Deis as they saw fit, and also sewn into small pouches of various shapes by nuns to keep them clean and safe or pressed into heart-shaped lockets.

    As in the paschal candle, the wax typifies the virgin flesh of Christ, the cross associated with the lamb suggests the idea of a victim offered in sacrifice, and as the blood of the paschal lamb of old protected each household from the destroying angel, so the purpose of these consecrated medallions is to protect those who wear or possess them from all malign influences. In the Pope’s prayers of blessing, special mention is made specifically for protection in combat, protection against tempests, of the perils of storm and pestilence, lightning, from fire and flood; malice of demons and of every adversity; sickness, and a sudden and unprovided death, and also of the dangers to which women are exposed in childbirth. Miraculous effects have been believed to follow the use of these objects of piety. Fires are said to have been extinguished, and floods stayed. (Vol. 1, p. 220 - Catholic Encyclopedia 1913 Edition).

    In a wonderful article by Charles Hugo Doyle, entitled "The Forgotten Sacramental," the author provides a summary of the special virtues of the Agnus Dei, as cited by Popes Urban V, Paul II, Julius III, Sixtus V and Benedict XIV, which include the following benefits:
     
    They foster piety, banish tepidity, preserve from vice and dispose to virtue.
    They cancel venial sins and purify from the stain left by grievous sin after it has been remitted in the Sacrament of Penance,
    They banish evil spirits, deliver from temptation and preserve from eternal ruin.
    They are a protection from a sudden and unprovided death.
    They dispel fears occasioned by evil spirits.
    They are a protection in combat, and have power to ensure victory.
    They deliver from poison and from the snares of the wicked.
    They are excellent preventatives against sickness and are also an efficacious remedy -- especially in cases of epilepsy.
    They hinder the ravages of pestilence, of epidemics and infectious diseases.
    They quiet the winds, dissipate hurricanes, calm whirlwinds, and keep away tempests.
    They save from shipwreck and the danger of lightning and floods. An anecdote is recalled here of Pope St. Pius V, who had recourse to this expedient when the Tiber was in flood and seemed likely to submerge the city. We are told that when an Agnus Dei had been thrown into the river, the angry waters at once subsided.
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    « Reply #3 on: October 18, 2012, 08:17:04 AM »
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  • Quote from: Neil Obstat
    Inspired by your question, I looked up a few images of Agnus Dei ...





    Here is the Agnus Dei of the English Jesuit and martyr,
    St. Edmund Campion, whose feast is today [Tuesday, December 1, 2009].
    To quote:

        ....The Agnus Dei [was] carried by St. Edmund Campion on his clandestine missions, and a gift of Pope Gregory VIII. Campion was found hiding in Lynford Grange, Berkshire on July 17, 1581, and was hanged, drawn, and quartered five months later. The Agnus Dei was found wrapped in a list of indulgences stuffed in the rafters of Lynford Grange when the roof underwent renovation in 1959.















               ANGUS DEI                                                  
                Dated 1741                                            
                    from                                                          
           Pope Benedict XIV                                  
               (1740-1758)                                                
                  Figure of:                                                                    
               Saint Norbert                                            
               (c1080-1134)                                                
                 size: 50mm      

    On the page of that last one, is found the following explanation:

    These two [metalic lockets shown on that web page] were consecrated in the traditional manner during Easter season of 1964 by Pope Paul VI. Inexplicably, he did not ever consecrate the Agnus Dei again. Nor has any Supreme Pontiff since. No offical reason has ever been given by Rome as to why the ancient and revered practice was abandoned.

    Although its origin is shrouded in the mist of antiquity, the sacramental Agnus Dei is first mentioned in historical Church accounts as early as the sixth century, and referred to frequently by the early to middle ninth century. Thus, for over ten centuries the Agnus Dei has been a popular and treasured sacramental to Catholics.

    The name "Agnus Dei" was given to special discs of wax impressed with the figure of a lamb, the "Lamb of God" which were blessed by the reigning Pope in a ceremony so solemn that the Pope was said to consecrate the sacramentals. Popes traditionally consecrated Agnus Deis only during the first year of their pontificate and again every seven years.

    In earlier times, on Holy Saturday, the Pope, with the assistance of the Archdeacon of Rome, prepared the wax from the previous year's paschal candles, adding both chrism and balsam to the wax. The Agnus Deis were subsequently consecrated on the Wednesday of Easter week and distributed on Saturday of the same week. In more recent times, the wax was prepared by monks, dipped in water mixed with chrism after being formed and then consecrated by the Pope and distributed. When visiting Cardinals would visit the Holy Father, an Agnus Dei wax disc, or multiple disc,  would be placed into his miter. The Cardinals then distributed the Agnus Deis as they saw fit, and also sewn into small pouches of various shapes by nuns to keep them clean and safe or pressed into heart-shaped lockets.

    As in the paschal candle, the wax typifies the virgin flesh of Christ, the cross associated with the lamb suggests the idea of a victim offered in sacrifice, and as the blood of the paschal lamb of old protected each household from the destroying angel, so the purpose of these consecrated medallions is to protect those who wear or possess them from all malign influences. In the Pope’s prayers of blessing, special mention is made specifically for protection in combat, protection against tempests, of the perils of storm and pestilence, lightning, from fire and flood; malice of demons and of every adversity; sickness, and a sudden and unprovided death, and also of the dangers to which women are exposed in childbirth. Miraculous effects have been believed to follow the use of these objects of piety. Fires are said to have been extinguished, and floods stayed. (Vol. 1, p. 220 - Catholic Encyclopedia 1913 Edition).

    In a wonderful article by Charles Hugo Doyle, entitled "The Forgotten Sacramental," the author provides a summary of the special virtues of the Agnus Dei, as cited by Popes Urban V, Paul II, Julius III, Sixtus V and Benedict XIV, which include the following benefits:
     
    They foster piety, banish tepidity, preserve from vice and dispose to virtue.
    They cancel venial sins and purify from the stain left by grievous sin after it has been remitted in the Sacrament of Penance,
    They banish evil spirits, deliver from temptation and preserve from eternal ruin.
    They are a protection from a sudden and unprovided death.
    They dispel fears occasioned by evil spirits.
    They are a protection in combat, and have power to ensure victory.
    They deliver from poison and from the snares of the wicked.
    They are excellent preventatives against sickness and are also an efficacious remedy -- especially in cases of epilepsy.
    They hinder the ravages of pestilence, of epidemics and infectious diseases.
    They quiet the winds, dissipate hurricanes, calm whirlwinds, and keep away tempests.
    They save from shipwreck and the danger of lightning and floods. An anecdote is recalled here of Pope St. Pius V, who had recourse to this expedient when the Tiber was in flood and seemed likely to submerge the city. We are told that when an Agnus Dei had been thrown into the river, the angry waters at once subsided.


    Thanks Neil and may God bless you abundantly for your hard work in finding the answers to the numerous queries that has been put in the various posts.
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    « Reply #4 on: October 18, 2012, 11:38:29 AM »
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  • Thanks so much for the info Neil- I will keep searching but I am now a lot less hopeful. It is so long since they have made new ones, and most of them are probably in the hands of Traditional Catholics who keep them in the family.  They are really expensive on Ebay or other places, and since I now know they would lose their blessing, I guess purchasing one is out. I am leary of the listings that  offer " nice frame with scrollwork for sale, includes Agnus Dei as free gift".  I think that kind of skirts the spirit of the rules against simony, don't you? Thanks for all the info, I learned some things. Kinda set off my spooky-dar though-- at Vat 2 ( If I have this right, and I am sure someone will correct me,) they took the exorcized salt out of the holy water, got rid of the exorcism prayers at Baptism, actually changed the Rite of Exorcism that had been proven effective for millennia, and inexplicably stopped producing Agnus Dei. Put together in a heap like that, it sounds kinda...ummm....

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